Rhiannon
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The House of the Tower of SnowThe House of Snow?
The House of the Tower of SnowThe House of Snow?
By that point, either it's been dissolved, or someone else has been running it for decades.And what should happen to her house when Aredhel dies?
Penlod takes command of it, which is why Penlod will be in command of both the House of the Pillar and the House of the Tower of Snow at the Fall of Gondolin.And what should happen to her house when Aredhel dies?
Sounds fair.Penlod takes command of it, which is why Penlod will be in command of both the House of the Pillar and the House of the Tower of Snow at the Fall of Gondolin.
I think we should make sure Fingolfin is a prominent character in Season 5 by having him be the protagonist of one or more episodes before his final duel and/or making sure to frequently check in with his storyline about the siege. One additional thing The Silmarillion mentions he does is pondering an assault on Angband after Men have allied themselves with the Elves and being supported in this only by Angrod and Aegnor.Angrod ought to be a supporting character in Aegnor's storyline, yes. You'll note that I'm not really focusing on what *every* character is doing, but on what the main characters are doing for the season.
It is true that Maeglin will continue Aredhel's storyline after her death, and likely he'll be our point-of-view character in Gondolin for the remainder of the season.
I think we should have Galadriel and Celeborn return to Doraith after their honeymoon. Especially since their worries about being exiled from Doriath and being in Thingol's ill favor came to naught at the end of last season, we shouldn't show them staying away from Doriath.Okay, let's take a look at the storylines in Season 5 that we know about....
What else goes on this list?
Fingolfin
Fortifies Beleriand for the SiegeBefriends Men - HadorSees the Siege FailChallenges Morgoth and DiesAredhel
Grows restless in Gondolin, and feels Turgon is off mission.Leaves Gondolin with some guards and travels through Nan DungorthebHangs out with Fëanoreans (but not the brothers)Visits Nan ElmothMarries EölHas MaeglinReturns to Gondolin with MaeglinKilled by Eöl
Aegnor
Defends DorthonionMeets AndrethDefends DorthonionDies in BattleFinrod
Befriends BëorTries to make peace between Andreth and AegnorFriend of Dwarves - of NogrodBëor
Leads his people to BeleriandMeets FinrodPledges allegiance and moves to NargothrondDies of old age in his 90sHaleth
Settles in Caranthir's realmWatches family dieKills a bunch of orcsRejects Caranthir's offerTravels through Nan DungorthebSettles in the Forest of BrethilAndreth
Lives in DorthonionMeets AegnorRomance!Grows old alone as a wise womanDiesAmlach?
Opposes alliance with elvesIs impersonatedSeeks alliance with elvesNogrod?
Seeks to cultivate a relationship with NargothrondZirak makes the Nauglamir for FinrodVillains
Catch-and-ReleaseDragon ImprovementsBattle of Sudden FlameDuel with FingolfinCharacters/Groups conspicuously missing a storyline for this Season:
Fëanoreans - play incidental roles in Aredhel's and Haleth's stories (and Amlach's)Doriath - ???Galadriel and Celeborn - honeymoon in Ossiriand, and then?Círdan - ???
Wouldn’t the Gondolodrim already know about mining and smithcraft?Don't forget about Angrod!
Angrod:
Defends Dorthonion
Potentially knows about Aegnor and Andreth
Defends Dorthonion
Dies in battle with Aegnor
We might also want to show a little of Maeglin in Gondolin after his parents' deaths so that storyline doesn't end there.
Maeglin:
Hears stories of Gondolin from Aredhel
Flees to Gondolin with Aredhel
Saved from Eol by Aredhel
Earns favor of Turgon and the Gondolindrim
Teaches the Gondolindrim about mining and smithcraft
Desires Idril
I think it is also important that we do not forget about Luthien, as she will be a major character in Season 6. We may want to introduce young Beren towards the end of Season 5 as well.
They do, but Maeglin has more to teach them:Wouldn’t the Gondolodrim already know about mining and smithcraft?
I'm... Not fond of this idea. And I don't know why. Just doesn't feel right to me.I have an idea: how about Sauron luring Eilinel (and any other of Gorlim’s family if he has any) away, then have Thuringwethil take the role of the phantom that takes Eilinel’s form?
Why not? It works with how Sauron ensnared Edhellos.I'm... Not fond of this idea. And I don't know why. Just doesn't feel right to me.
Not exactly. What Sauron did with Edhellos was impersonate her husband and pretend to be captured alongside her. He had studied Angrod's personality enough beforehand to know how to behave like Angrod well enough to fool Angrod's wife for several days until he got the information he needed out of her. There was not really any ensnaring since she was already captured; Sauron was deceiving her to get information.Why not? It works with how Sauron ensnared Edhellos.
This. Mostly.Not exactly. What Sauron did with Edhellos was impersonate her husband and pretend to be captured alongside her. He had studied Angrod's personality enough beforehand to know how to behave like Angrod well enough to fool Angrod's wife for several days until he got the information he needed out of her. There was not really any ensnaring since she was already captured; Sauron was deceiving her to get information.
Gorlim sees something he thinks is his wife one of the times he visits their old house. He does not really interact with the fake Eilinel because Sauron's forces seize him as soon as he cries out for her. While we could show Thuringwethil pretending to be Eilinel, I am not sure there is a need to have someone impersonate her. I also kind of like fake Eilinel being a conjured phantom rather than someone else because it demonstrates more of Sauron's power (creating external images in addition to transforming his own image), and I think it would be more powerful for Gorlim to learn that his wife was never there at all.