But it seems that none of the Minyar (Vanyar) became Avari, so maybe Ingwë was one of the elf-fathers?So MithLuin I had a thought earlier about the elf-fathers, I didn't write it anywhere but I saw in another thread that you suggested it: That the elf-fathers are the leaders of the Avari. I think it makes a lot of sense. Of course, it is a pity, the first elves sliding into the forgotten shadows of history, but on the other hand, we're saying the Valar were wrong in inviting the elves, so the elf-fathers were perhaps right, then....
About this... If we're having the Fëanor-Galadriel situation where she refuses to give him a strand of her hair... I mean, it seems that he marries Nerdanel before Galadriel's father is born. Trying to get the timeline right here...For instance, the courtship of Fëanor and Nerdanel takes place after the birth of Fingolfin but before the birth of Finarfin, IIRC.)
But he cant be. He had a sister ( the mother of Indis or Indis herself).But it seems that none of the Minyar (Vanyar) became Avari, so maybe Ingwë was one of the elf-fathers?
Well is it clear that Indis or her mother were actually sister of Ingwë?But he cant be. He had a sister ( the mother of Indis or Indis herself).
Exactly the same can be said about Elwë, Olwë and Elmo too thenWell is it clear that Indis or her mother were actually sister of Ingwë?
The problem here is that if none of the Vanyar became Avari, and Ingwë wasn't the firstborn leader, then why did Ingwë assume leadership? If, on the other hand, the mother of Indis was also one of the Unbegotten, then she could have been considered a 'sister', but not in the sense that included having the same parents.
Yes, well, Elwë doesn't marry until he meets Melian. If he had been one of the Unbegotten, he would have married someone already.Exactly the same can be said about Elwë, Olwë and Elmo too then
Oh yeh forgot thatYes, well, Elwë doesn't marry until he meets Melian. If he had been one of the Unbegotten, he would have married someone already.