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    Session 2.13 for S2E09

    I like ... but I'm afraid after hearing Professor Olsen on the live session say he doesn't even want a HINT to the audience, it'll get shot down :-( BUT, we can hope!
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    Session 2.13 for S2E09

    I fully understand that the execs call the shots and sometimes you just have to roll with it ... but I REALLY agree with you on this one. I've never understood how on earth an audience will be fooled for a second by the "new" Melkor haha. BUT, it is what it is and I'm sure we can find some way...
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    Session 2.13 for S2E09

    Yeah the Tengwar/Calculus thing actually could work. Though Tolkien used it sparingly this IS an arcane world that is "magical" in a sense. Nicholas made a very good point about how Feanor probably just KNOWS the science and that IS in line with Tolkiens concepts. The audience will, however...
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    Session 2.13 for S2E09

    Nicholas, what you're saying, in concept, makes perfect sense. In fact, in my opinion, your statement on this lines up perfectly with what I perceive Tolkien portrayed/conveyed in the books. However (yes, you knew that was coming), this "concept" is exactly the kind of thing that Professor...
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    Session 2.13 for S2E09

    MithLuin, I really like this but the very reason I like it suggests that the execs won't go for it. Every time I think of this scene I see Melkor as the super creepy guy ... and he is! Which is why I like the scene but that violates the exec approach in this episode doesn't it? Now I think...
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    Session 2.13 for S2E09

    The part that is hard for me to conceptualize is whether or not it is leaning towards "magic" or purely "science." Are the scenes of their creation going to be a scientist working on his latest project or a magician working with potions and elixirs? I've always seen it more of a purely science...
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    Session 2.13 for S2E09

    Ray, I think it's very easy to forget that the Noldor had become a very prideful people by this time. And I don't mean that in a good way. In reading the Sil you get the feeling that Tolkien is trying to point out that they weren't the "sweet and innocent" children they once were. Not that...
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    Frame Narrative

    Thanks for the summary on it MithLuin. I do remember listening to the Podcast and this was discussed ... but I simply forgot. That's why I take notes now haha. I think her journey through Middle Earth would be something the audience would enjoy. As long as it were done in an expedited way...
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    Frame Narrative

    Ok, I'm looking/using MithLuin's outline and just asking some questions to maybe start to get a better grasp of things. - Episode 2 - Introduction of Arwen’s friend - Who is she? Are we going to develop her back story in detail or leave things a bit ambiguous? - Episode 4 - Arwen...
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    Frame Narrative

    LOL ... apparently the vast majority of the people I interact with on a day to day basis. It's very disappointing really :-p
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    Frame Narrative

    Hmmm, I'm not sure. I mean you have to admit that a story written FOR the informed will always be more interesting for that same group. I imagine there's a middle ground there but that's not as fun! haha.
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    Frame Narrative

    Let me say ... if you're just "moderately creative" I reserve NO hope for myself!! LOL. MithLuin, you and the regulars on these boards are all very creative.
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    Frame Narrative

    HOW DARE YOU! LET ME TELL YOU ... haha :-P ... No, no, no I'm just kidding. Ray, I think what you suggest is perfect. I've been "listening" to Professor Olsen's podcasts from the very beginning. When it was just him and Dave doing the Riddles in the Dark series. I've been "listening" to...
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    Frame Narrative

    Nicholas, It seems only fitting, considering her future, that she would be shown to have some contact with one of the Rangers. If this time line happened a year or so after the Battle of Five Armies Haldbarad might be a little to young?? I"m not sure how much passage of time passes between...
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    Frame Narrative

    MithLuin, Is there an outline somewhere that points to what the frame will be doing episode to episode ... or is that the exact thing we are trying to hammer out now? I'm trying to keep up and the main narrative will be very information intensive for episodes 8, 9, and 10. It seems like we...
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    Frame Narrative

    Seems like this comes down to the audience you’re writing it for. In all reality a lot of the discussions we have here are centered on what a Tolkien fanatic (probably almost everyone who finds themselves on these boards) would love. Arwen telling the story? Every “fan” loves this … it’s just...
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    Session 2.12 for S2E08

    What Feanor did (in conjunction to the open brandishing of weapons), to my understanding, was unprecedented. I've always imagined stunned and shocked elves ... except for Fingolfin. Who, as MithLuin pointed out, just gave him the silent death stare.
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    Session 2.12 for S2E08

    You made me laugh Ray ... the first time I read the Sil I was still in my 20s and full of testosterone and that's EXACTLY what I was thinking! "... man he should have jacked that dude up!" haha.
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    Session 2.12 for S2E08

    I think the text points us in that direction ... he was wise enough, after the pronouncement of the doom, to turn back and put ego aside. Showing him as peacemaker - or an attempt - is NOT a deviation from the spirit of the text, IMO.
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    Session 2.12 for S2E08

    So an easy putt ... we show him working on the Palantiri ... throw in other "inventions" in the background. Now, concerning his rivalry with Fingolfin. I'm assuming, for this episode, this is in full blown "we really don't like each other mode" ?? Is Finarfin trying to reconcile the two or is...
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