morgoth's ring

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    Christmas special: Varda and Mary

    Last week I read a passage in Morgoth's Ring that reminded me so much of the John Prologue. There Eru says to Varda: Though shalt take into Eä a light that is holy, coming new from Me, unsullied by the thought and lust of Melkor, and with thee it shall enter into Eä, and be in Eä, but not of...
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    Melkor's Original Function

    I think I posted this in the wrong forum originally so I'm posting it here too. Related to the Morgoth’s ring series. What was Melkor’s original intended role in Ea from Iluvatar supposed to be before he was corrupted? How would Ea have been changed if he remained loyal? Or perhaps was he...
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    Melkor’s original role

    Hi, This is my first post and I’m not sure if I’m using the right thread but I had a question related to the Morgoth’s ring series. What was Melkor’s original intended role in Ea from Iluvatar supposed to be before he was corrupted? How would Ea have been changed if he remained loyal? Or...
  4. NotACat

    Orcs could be kind of like Ents in a twisted fashion

    In Session 28 of "Morgoth's Ring", Corey says that But we know that Ents have "independent will and reasoning powers" without being Children of Illuvatar. Furthermore, NitrasTheAwesomeOne said in the Twitch chat: to which Tarlonniell replied: My head-canon is that Melkor—possibly via...
  5. ForthDauntless3

    Indis and Finwë

    I missed Morgoth's Ring #13, so I didn't get a chance to raise this point live. Upon reading the revised and extended version of Indis and Finwë, I was struck by parallels with Beren and Luthien. Indis, like Luthien, is the daughter of a great king among the elves. The two seem to have been...
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    Morgoth's Ring and Elven and Orcan embodiment

    I've been super busy but I'm now finally catching up on Morgoth's Ring, etc. in class 3, Dr. Olsen made a big deal about Tolkien's doubling down on Augustinian evil only corrupting theology not working with elves. That may be, but I always presumed the fëar of the elves being tortured were...
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