Yeap, in all categories checked there the atlatl was a neat compromise between a spear - stong but cumbersone to use and difficult (limited in numer) to transport in a forest and a "primitive arrow". And - as the article states - an atlatl dart is capable to bring down "even the toughest game -- assuming it is in the effective range
" - which said range is naturally limited in a forest anyway - due to all the trees standing around.
"No one of the three factors we looked at is an indicator of hunting effectiveness by itself. All the weapons listed have been used for killing, and all have proven themselves effective. Atlatl darts do not have as much kinetic energy or momentum as firearms, but have a better sectional density. They are higher in all three factors than arrows, and arrows are known to be very effective weapons. There is very little you can't bring down with a well-placed arrow.
Is an atlatl as powerful as a .30-06? No. It has less kinetic energy (force of impact) and less momentum (penetration). It doesn't have anywhere near the effective range and is much harder to aim. But for tens of thousands of years, it was the primary hunting weapon on earth. Dart points have been found in mammoth bones, and they have been tested on modern elephant carcasses with impressive results. While it may not be as effective as a rifle, it is certainly effective enough. Just how dead do you need your supper?"
From "The Strategikon", attributed to the Emperor Maurice (reign 582-602):
"Dealing with the Slavs, the Antes, and the Like.
The nations of the Slavs and the Antes live in the same way and have the same customs... They live among nearly impenetrable forests, rivers, lakes, and marshes, and have made exits from their settlements branch out in many directions because of the dangers they might face... They live like bandits and love to carry out attacks against their enemies in densely wooded, narrow, and steep places. They make effective use of ambushes, sudden attacks, and raids, devising many different methods by night and by day... They are armed with short javelins, two to each man. Some also have nice-looking but unwieldy shields. In addition, they use wooden bows with short arrows smeared with a poisonous drug which is very effective."
The South Slavs of the Danube-area and the Balkans seems to have no problem with using javelins in heavily wooded areas, as long as the javelins were not to long. So I think Beren and his companions should be able to use them, along with bows. Poisonous arrows might be considered unethical by some.
Great! Slavs. And Antes (ancient Ukrainians). You do know how to approach me from my week side Halstein
. Slavs do have a long guerilla tradition - in contrary to the Celts. But here we have exactly the limitiation of numbers I've spoken about - "two to each man
". Those javelins described seems to have been cerit/djerid/jerid/jereed-like: Djerid (weapon) - Wikipedia https://worcester.emuseum.com/internal/media/dispatcher/36543/resize:format=full;jsessionid=F7ED9951138AACF942832C0206101295
which the Slavs have used historically also. [Here short old very low quality video showing and explaining a Slavic jerid - regrettably only in Polish - build, wood (hazel or ash), length, weighting and the way to throw it Dziryt budowa - YouTube
- sorry, this was the best I could find].
Beyond that generally the woods South of the Danube tend not to be very dense. "densely wooded, narrow, and steep places" seems more like ravines than real woods.
And as : "Short bow
s naturally have shorter draw lengths
than long bows" (Short Bow Vs. Long Bow (sportsrec.com)
) and "Arrow length
refers to draw length plus about 2 inche
s. " (Draw Length vs Arrow Length Explained - Archery for Beginners
) the use of "short arrows
" does exclude
the use of a longbow - sorry Haerangil
- at least in this reported case - which makes sense for a wooded area - where the possible range is naturally limited by the trees anyway. And as I've stated before, even a short arrow is enough to bring down a human, but not necessary an orc, who are generally more robust.
But I am all for
the use of forged metal jerids in Dorthonion - but on the orcs' part. Orcs are strong enough to carry bundles of those on their shoulders. And metal jerids do also look very nice - even when imagined covered in Blackspeech runes.
Orcs use them...
Does poison work on orcs? Didn't the Woses use poison arrows and darts or does my memory betray me?
No idea. Do not know if poison does work on elves - if not, orcs might have some resistance to them - or maybe not - as they are corrupted. But orcs could have been immunised to the poisons of Angband during their warrior training.
I am sure Angband has a research bio lab where all kinds of poisons and pestillences are invented, lead by some fallen Maiar of Estë and Irmo.