Rhiannon
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I just think having two pieces of the visor that operate independently would be a little awkward.
Dragon-Helm of Dor-Lomin
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Nicholas Palazzo
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What if a bar or narrow plate connect the two halves at the bottom?
Rhiannon
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Would they still operate independently?
Nicholas Palazzo
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Not with a piece of metal connecting them, no.
Rhiannon
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How would that be different from a single visor?
Nicholas Palazzo
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It isn't different from a single visor. But it does allow the visor to rotate upwards without interfering with the crest.
Rhiannon
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Are you suggesting the visor just has a split in it so it goes around the crest when lifted rather than sliding over the crest?
Nicholas Palazzo
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Yeah, rather than trying to have the visor somehow go over the crest.
Octoburn
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Personally, I believe that the dragon crest should be bigger. Not quite as big as the one in the CoH novel art, but still large enough that the helmet is almost unusable, as it was described as not being able to be worn by Elves and most men because of the size and weight of it. Hador, Galdor and Turin are the only ones ever said to have actually worn it, other than Azaghal.
Either hinged, or the front/neck part could be strapped on. I know I've seen helmets of that type before.
Nicholas Palazzo
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The problem with jousting helmets is that they often restrict the movement of the head quite a bit, as this one likely would. It would also come across as a bit anachronistic when not paired with fully articulated plate armor.
Rhiannon
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Emperor XLII
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After discussion in latest SilmFilm (Season 5, Session 36), was inspired to sketch some crown and mask ideas. Went in a more ominous/horrific, rather than traditional, direction:
In the discussion, we mentioned people wearing animal skins/skulls as a model for how to incorporate the dragon defiantly.
Here are some examples, starting with the suggestion in the podcast.
Hercules wearing the pelt of the Nemean Lion
The bear skull helm from The 13th Warrior
Definitely scary to see this thing coming towards you in battle....
A less significant version of this is the lion mane/headpiece the White Witch wears during the battle in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
Princess Mononoke has a wolf mask + skin:
Another direction to look is the Krampus masks and similar traditional costumes that have 'monstrous' faces. (Or Perchten , or Badalisc)
Here are some examples, starting with the suggestion in the podcast.
Hercules wearing the pelt of the Nemean Lion
The bear skull helm from The 13th Warrior
Definitely scary to see this thing coming towards you in battle....
A less significant version of this is the lion mane/headpiece the White Witch wears during the battle in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
Princess Mononoke has a wolf mask + skin:
Another direction to look is the Krampus masks and similar traditional costumes that have 'monstrous' faces. (Or Perchten , or Badalisc)
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Ange1e4e5
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I guess I need a little convincing of the practicality of the designs; the facial looks seem to be made of material that wouldn't likely hold up in a battle.In the discussion, we mentioned people wearing animal skins/skulls as a model for how to incorporate the dragon defiantly.
Here are some examples, starting with the suggestion in the podcast.
Hercules wearing the pelt of the Nemean Lion
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The bear skull helm from The 13th Warrior
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Definitely scary to see this thing coming towards you in battle....
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A less significant version of this is the lion mane/headpiece the White Witch wears during the battle in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
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Princess Mononoke has a wolf mask + skin:
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Another direction to look is the Krampus masks and similar traditional costumes that have 'monstrous' faces. (Or Perchten , or Badalisc)
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Good call; here is Tolkien's illustration of Glaurung:
