Elves can survive longer, but nothing close to years. Tuor and Voronwe look set to die very soon.Yes, elves can survive for longer.
And who is to say that Morgoth is not magically sustaining Maedhros in some way? After all, he forces Húrin to sit on a chair and watch the fates of his kin play out, so there's nothing natural about Húrin's survival during that imprisonment that lasted years and years.
I thought Tuor was allowed to live with Idril and be counted among the Eldar. More than what was allowed for Beren and Luthien.Elves can survive longer, but nothing close to years. Tuor and Voronwe look set to die very soon.
I think this is case similar to Hurin. Morgoth wants to torment Maedhros and draw out his suffering. It's also a sends the message, he can take the 'Noldor King' and there is nothing the Noldor can do about it. He is displayed in plain sight and they can't get to him.
Yes, elves can survive for longer.
And who is to say that Morgoth is not magically sustaining Maedhros in some way? After all, he forces Húrin to sit on a chair and watch the fates of his kin play out, so there's nothing natural about Húrin's survival during that imprisonment that lasted years and years.
I was thinking about leaving him there as a challenge for the Noldor, only for Fingon to find out that he can’t get Maedhros free without severing his arm. Which Morgoth makes sure to leave out. As explained by Bane in The Dark Knight Rises, hope can be just as much as an instrument of torture as can anything else.I expect that there will be a scene in Season 3 Episode 13 where Morgoth will 'question' Maedhros, and certainly gloat over the fact that his brothers didn't barter for him. The aftermath of that scene will be Maedhros being stapled to the cliff. So, yes, Morgoth can promise to sustain him in his torment so that his spirit isn't able to flee Morgoth's realm, etc, etc. There's a reason Maedhros starts out begging Fingon for death as soon as it's determined Fingon can't reach him. Maedhros would have counted death as a rescue at that point.
I know that we will want to at the very least imply torture as part of Maedhros' captivity, but I think we will try to keep the on-screen stuff as mild as possible. Morgoth's words will have to serve to induce the necessary horror at that situation.
That could work, but I don't think the Noldor know/can see where Maedhros is. Fingon had to go looking for him. And, if I recall correctly, nearly gave up the search when he started singing?I was thinking about leaving him there as a challenge for the Noldor, only for Fingon to find out that he can’t get Maedhros free without severing his arm. Which Morgoth makes sure to leave out. As explained by Bane in The Dark Knight Rises, hope can be just as much as an instrument of torture as can anything else.
It took him five years or 23 years depending on our scale. That might be stretching it for how long Fingon can look.That could work, but I don't think the Noldor know/can see where Maedhros is. Fingon had to go looking for him. And, if I recall correctly, nearly gave up the search when he started singing?
Looks like we got ourselves a Morton's Fork. Either we make Fingon look stupid by looking for 5 or 23 years, or the Noldor look cowardly for not trying to rescue him when they find out where he is.Well, we'd have the problem the other way around, too. If they can see him up there, why leave him in agony for 5 or 23 years?
I like this.We could more easily, I suspect, make Fingon look noble -- if desperate -- if he's still searching 23 years later than make the Noldor sympathetic if they knowingly leave him up there for 23 years. Others could try to dissuade Fingon, mostly likely Fingolfin and Maglor, by kindly pointing out that if there's been no sign of Maedhros for 23 years, he's almost certainly dead. "The only evidence we have that he's alive is the word of the thrall of Morgoth, who lies." This way, we'd be emphasizing Fingon's devotion, especially if we make it clear that he doesn't really expect to find Maedhros, but loves him too much to abandon him when there is any hope (Estel*), left.
Side note: did everyone else who plays LotRO get the Amdir thing before last session? I didn't.
So he’d be the first person to try and get into Angband by stealth, a precursor to Beren and Luthien?I like this.
We can even have Fingon planning to sneak into Angband itself. In an argument with Maglor, the latter can ask rhetorically 'How do you plan to save him, sneak into Angband by yourself and drag him out.' To everyone present this would seem to conclude the debate. Even the audience might think Fingon has given up, until we see him packing his bow, sword, a hood and heading off to Angband.
We could even play it exactly like the Silmarillion. He climbs up to the top looking for something weakness in Angband, he finds none. So in desperation he sings his song and Maedhros hears.