Flammifer
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Yeah, winning in a discussion or in a shouting match or performing an interrogation is not establishing dominion imho.
Seems like the sort of morality which could easily lead down a slippery slope?
Yeah, winning in a discussion or in a shouting match or performing an interrogation is not establishing dominion imho.
Decent German police during the occupation of Poland? Part of keeping order in occupied Poland was getting rid of the Jews.
Seems like the sort of morality which could easily lead down a slippery slope?
What a great question.what is the enforcement level? [of the Istari's mandate not to "dominate through fear or force"]
What a great question.
We see a whole gamut of enforcement levels in other things, all the way from essentially none at all; "let them dig their own graves" (metaphorically) when the Noldor were merely banned from returning to Valinor (and they didn't even stick to that), all the way to as complete an enforcement as can be imagined: the total destruction of Numenor. It is rather puzzling, actually.
"Subtlety was not their strong point. Discretion was not the better part of the Valar." [Joel Polowin]The Valar do seem to work under the assumption that Elves are the Children of Illuvatar, whereas Men are the step-children.
The Valar do seem to work under the assumption that Elves are the Children of Illuvatar, whereas Men are the step-children.