Húrin

[Ilana Mushin]

He's 6'1" so maybe a bit too tall for Húrin, but I reckon he could carry off acting shorter. He has the physicality and he did play Superman and the eponymous Witcher with great aplomb, and range. I reckon he would do post-Angband Húrin well.

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[MithLuin]

Part of my problem is that I keep thinking of guys who are significantly older than what we're looking for. I imagine we'd want someone in the late 20's/early 30's age range. But we also want someone short/stocky - a guy who looks like if someone runs into him....they'll fall down, and he'll still be standing.

I've thought of a couple of action hero type actors who could play that type of role...but they're in their 50's! Jason Stathum is 5'10", and certainly tends to play roles where he's the last one standing in the fight scenes he gets into. Similarly, Jeremy Renner is 5' 8 1/2", and he handles himself very well in action roles (or did, before his accident).

Best I've come up with is Taron Egerton. He's in his early 30's, and only 5'9". He can clearly do fight choreography (based on Kingsman).

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As Robin Hood (2018)

 

[Alvisan]

He's 6'1" so maybe a bit too tall for Húrin, but I reckon he could carry off acting shorter. He has the physicality and he did play Superman and the eponymous Witcher with great aplomb, and range. I reckon he would do post-Angband Húrin well.

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Known for: Man of Steel, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Justice League

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I was waiting to nominate him for Turin!

 

[Ilana Mushin]

I was waiting to nominate him for Turin!

It’s a toss up, I agree. But I thought Túrin would need to be younger

 

[Ange1e4e5]

Part of my problem is that I keep thinking of guys who are significantly older than what we're looking for. I imagine we'd want someone in the late 20's/early 30's age range. But we also want someone short/stocky - a guy who looks like if someone runs into him....they'll fall down, and he'll still be standing.

I've thought of a couple of action hero type actors who could play that type of role...but they're in their 50's! Jason Stathum is 5'10", and certainly tends to play roles where he's the last one standing in the fight scenes he gets into. Similarly, Jeremy Renner is 5' 8 1/2", and he handles himself very well in action roles (or did, before his accident).

Best I've come up with is Taron Egerton. He's in his early 30's, and only 5'9". He can clearly do fight choreography (based on Kingsman).

Taron Egerton | Actor, Producer, Soundtrack

Known for: Kingsman: The Secret Service, Rocketman, Kingsman: The Golden Circle

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Plus Egerton can sing if need be. Doesn't Húrin try to write a song after Lalaith dies, only to break his harp?

 

[David_M_R]

@Ange1e4e5 He doesn't in the Narn version, I just read about Lalaith's death. In the CoH novel maybe?

 

[Ilana Mushin]

How about Leo Woodall (White Lotus, One Day). 5'11". He's very muscular. His performance in One Day i thought was extremely good - brought complexity over 20 year period for the same character.

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[Ange1e4e5]

@Ange1e4e5 He doesn't in the Narn version, I just read about Lalaith's death. In the CoH novel maybe?

Page 40 in the Children of Húrin novel.

"But Húrin mourned openly, and he took up his harp and would make a song of lamentation; but he could not, and he broke his harp, and going out he lifted up his hand towards the North, crying 'Marrer of Middle-Earth, would that I might see you face to face, and mar you as my lord Fingolfin did!"

 

[David_M_R]

Oh, my mistake! That paragraph is verbatim in the Narn, now I check. I recognised the "Marrer of Middle-earth..." line, but not the bit about the harp and the song.

 

[Ange1e4e5]

Before it was decided that Húrin was to be dark-haired, one of my suggestions was going to be Ben Hardy. He's had a few physical roles (Angel in X-Men: Apocalypse, Four in Six Underground where he did a lot of parkour), played the drums for Bohemian Rhapsody.

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[Ange1e4e5]

I'll admit I'm having a hard time conceptualizing Húrin, mainly reconciling his build with his height. It's been decided that Húrin has the build of a linebacker right? The problem is that guys with builds like a linebacker tend to be tall; take Josh Allen, Hailee Steinfeld's boyfriend, who's 6'5" and nearly 240lbs (I can't post pictures of them together because the file isn't the right type).

 

[MithLuin]

...think a short linebacker with thick legs


Or rather, forget the idea of a linebacker at all, and just use the idea of "stocky". Someone who is solid and looks like if they plant themselves firmly, they'd be difficult to knock down (that's the linebacker comparison, not actual build).

 

[Haerangil]

How does he look? Tall, heavy, dirt blond hair? Like some Viking?

 

[MithLuin]

In a word, no. He is to be on the shorter side (ie, under 6'), dark haired, and stocky.

In Season 7, he is 21-33 years old, so I would like to limit our casting to actors under 40. We can make Húrin look older with makeup later. Hard to believe that a 50 year old guy is 25 though!

 

[Haerangil]

Okay. He is described to somewhat shorter, from his mothers side, but everything else hes supposed to look hadorian...

 

[MithLuin]

The idea is to clearly distinguish him from Huor.

So, Galdor is quintisentially House of Hador (tall, blond, broad shoulders). Huor is going to be tall and lighter haired, but somewhat slight/slender in build. Húrin will be shorter and broad-shouldered, with darker hair. So, they should all look related to each other, but not easily confused.


Recall that in Silm Film, the House of Haleth is played by people of Indian descent (Indian subcontinent). So it would be rather unlikely if Hareth were to have blond children, even if Galdor is blond (which he is). Blond human characters should have descent (on both sides) from either the House of Hador or the House of Bëor. We did portray Adanel as blond, and have indicated some blond background characters in the House of Bëor. But a parent who is solely from the House of Haleth should have dark-haired children, in general.

 

[Ange1e4e5]

Barry Keoghan could be an option. He struck me as pretty intense in Dunkirk and Eternals from what I saw him. He's also an amateur boxer when not acting.

Barry Keoghan

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Age: 31
Height: 5'8"
Roles: George in Dunkirk, Martin in The Killing of a Sacred Deer, Druik in Eternals, Dominic in The Banshees of Inishirin, The Joker in The Batman (2022)

 

[Nicholas Palazzo]

Barry Keoghan could be an option. He struck me as pretty intense in Dunkirk and Eternals from what I saw him. He's also an amateur boxer when not acting.

Barry Keoghan

Barry Keoghan | Actor, Producer, Soundtrack

Known for: The Killing of a Sacred Deer, Saltburn, The Banshees of Inisherin

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Age: 31
Height: 5'8"
Roles: George in Dunkirk, Martin in The Killing of a Sacred Deer, Druik in Eternals, Dominic in The Banshees of Inishirin, The Joker in The Batman (2022)

Keoghan would need a huge bulk-up to get to Hurin for sure.

 

[Nicholas Palazzo]

There's Kit Harington who could probably get to the weight needed, but he's in his late thirties. Problem is that most known actors who are young enough are trying to look as slim as possible.

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[MithLuin]

So, I found two guys from the show "Lioness" - they're part of a special ops team, so military style fighting (ie, a lot of high tech surveillance, rather than a lot of hand to hand combat), but it's at least an active role and they do look the part. Only problem is their imdb pages are very sketchy, short on info. So, no age/height/weight for these guys.

Jonah Wharton

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Known for: The Requiem Boogie, Lioness, NCIS

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He's probably about 36 years old. (His birthday is April 20, but I don't have a year - his first screen credit is 2009 after he was in acting school)
He's taller than Zoe Saldana (who is 5'7") and about the same height as Nicole Kidman (who is 5'11"), so I'm putting him around 5'10" or 5'11". His character on Lioness is named Tex, and his demo reel on imdb has some scenes with him from that show (talking, not action).




Austin Hébert

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Known for: Jack Reacher: Never Go Back, Above Suspicion

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His acting credits also start in 2009, so also probably mid-30s. He is stocky and on the shorter side, so looks burly standing next to Jonah. He's taller than Holliday Grainger (5'1"), but who isn't? I think he's a bit shorter than Jonah, so I would've guessed around 5'7"-5'9" for him....but I also found a picture of him standing next to Emile Hirsch, who is only 5'7"...so definitely more like 5'9". He plays Randy on Lioness, which is also the name of his character in Above Suspicion. He has played several military-style roles, including in 12 Strong (about fighting in Afghanistan, alongside Chris Hemsworth), and in a 2015 sci-fi movie where he gets special fighting abilities called The Answer.



Speaking of Emile Hirsch.....
He's short and a little bit stocky, and under 40 (though just barely, so a bit old to be playing Húrin).

Emile Hirsch | Actor, Writer, Producer

Known for: Into the Wild, Speed Racer, The Girl Next Door

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Age: 39
Height: 5'7"

Known for: Playing the protagonist of "Into the Wild" (Chris McCandless) back in 2007. He's very skinny for that role, so I didn't really think about him for Húrin. He was also a skinny skater boy in Lords of Dogtown. But more recently, he plays a hacker in Pursuit and a gambler in Dead Money and he doesn't look as skinny as I remember him being.