If we want a session devoted to music for season 2 then we had better get in some good thematic input so the hosts can prepare.
In terms of music for SilmFilm, this is a biggy. There was plenty of discussion early on about the Ainulindale and how that would be treated, the general sound of it, Melkor's themes and the instability he provokes and only a little bit devoted to the actual themes so what I want to discuss here is thematic only. We didn't really discuss this for season 1 so why not have a catch up and do up to the end of Season 2.
The Ainulindale describes the three themes put forward by Iluvatar and I would like to concentrate on those themes more than the discord that Melkor sows during the Music in this thread.
What do we know?
Theme 1: the Ainur sang "and a sound arose of endless melodies woven into harmony that passed beyond hearing into the depths and into the heights and the places of the dwelling of Iluvatar were filled to overflowing, and the music and the echo of the music went out into the Void, and it was not void."
Theme 2: the new theme began "like and yet unlike the former theme, and it gathered power and had new beauty." After the Music it says about Manwe "...he was the chief instrument of the second theme that Iluvatar had raised up against the discord of Melkor."
Theme 3: "it was unlike the others. For it seemed at first soft and sweet, a mere rippling of gentle sounds in delicate melodies; and it could not be quenched, and it took to itself power and profundity. And it seemed at last that there were two musics progressing at one time before the seat of Iluvatar, and they were utterly at variance. The one was deep and wide and beautiful, but slow and blended with an immeasurable sorrow, from which its beauty chiefly came." and as to Melkor's music "...it essayed to drown the other music by the violence of its voice, but it seemed that its most triumphant notes were taken by the other and woven into its own solemn pattern." After the music there is more, "For the Children of Iluvatar were conceived by him alone; and they came with the third theme, and were not in the theme which Iluvatar propounded at the beginning, and none of the Ainur had a part in their making."
If the Ainulindale is a run through the history of Arda (up to a certain point) then these themes should directly relate to people, places and events that happen during the show. So what are your ideas about the three themes, at what times should we hear them appearing in the story, who and what should they be associated with, how do we show the echo of the Music in the waters of Ulmo?
Hopefully we will have enough material for the hosts to have a darn good session.
In terms of music for SilmFilm, this is a biggy. There was plenty of discussion early on about the Ainulindale and how that would be treated, the general sound of it, Melkor's themes and the instability he provokes and only a little bit devoted to the actual themes so what I want to discuss here is thematic only. We didn't really discuss this for season 1 so why not have a catch up and do up to the end of Season 2.
The Ainulindale describes the three themes put forward by Iluvatar and I would like to concentrate on those themes more than the discord that Melkor sows during the Music in this thread.
What do we know?
Theme 1: the Ainur sang "and a sound arose of endless melodies woven into harmony that passed beyond hearing into the depths and into the heights and the places of the dwelling of Iluvatar were filled to overflowing, and the music and the echo of the music went out into the Void, and it was not void."
Theme 2: the new theme began "like and yet unlike the former theme, and it gathered power and had new beauty." After the Music it says about Manwe "...he was the chief instrument of the second theme that Iluvatar had raised up against the discord of Melkor."
Theme 3: "it was unlike the others. For it seemed at first soft and sweet, a mere rippling of gentle sounds in delicate melodies; and it could not be quenched, and it took to itself power and profundity. And it seemed at last that there were two musics progressing at one time before the seat of Iluvatar, and they were utterly at variance. The one was deep and wide and beautiful, but slow and blended with an immeasurable sorrow, from which its beauty chiefly came." and as to Melkor's music "...it essayed to drown the other music by the violence of its voice, but it seemed that its most triumphant notes were taken by the other and woven into its own solemn pattern." After the music there is more, "For the Children of Iluvatar were conceived by him alone; and they came with the third theme, and were not in the theme which Iluvatar propounded at the beginning, and none of the Ainur had a part in their making."
If the Ainulindale is a run through the history of Arda (up to a certain point) then these themes should directly relate to people, places and events that happen during the show. So what are your ideas about the three themes, at what times should we hear them appearing in the story, who and what should they be associated with, how do we show the echo of the Music in the waters of Ulmo?
Hopefully we will have enough material for the hosts to have a darn good session.