Haerangil
Well-Known Member
I've been listening to the second-last podcast where Corey argues that Morgoth and Sauron are both about power, creation, rule and order and says he is convinced that Melkor would still tell to himself that everything needs to be torn down to be able to create anew from scratch...
Now, with all respect, i think that is a fundamentally wrong understanding of Morgoth at this point.While it is true that creation and altering of the great song was what Melkor had in mind at the beginning and he still DOES in a way create or alter a lot of things, it think it is clear that at one point Melkor pretty much abandoned the idea of creation, order, making and rule... that is because he is frustrated and hateful of illuvatar, who can create while he can not.So he still rules and "warps" things, but that is not his final goa lbut only tools or temporary steps in his plan , his final goal is to prove Eru wrong and destroy creation and life - if he can't create then there shall be no creation at all! Morgoth is basically a nihilist and rule, "creating" ( in truth just " disfiguring" and "corrupting") , strength, power are but tools to him in his spiteful war against eru and life.
Sauron is far from that kind of Nihilism... he is just a petty tyrant who is all but satisfied with his vision of rule, order, power, But Morgoth isn't happy with that at all.
Now, with all respect, i think that is a fundamentally wrong understanding of Morgoth at this point.While it is true that creation and altering of the great song was what Melkor had in mind at the beginning and he still DOES in a way create or alter a lot of things, it think it is clear that at one point Melkor pretty much abandoned the idea of creation, order, making and rule... that is because he is frustrated and hateful of illuvatar, who can create while he can not.So he still rules and "warps" things, but that is not his final goa lbut only tools or temporary steps in his plan , his final goal is to prove Eru wrong and destroy creation and life - if he can't create then there shall be no creation at all! Morgoth is basically a nihilist and rule, "creating" ( in truth just " disfiguring" and "corrupting") , strength, power are but tools to him in his spiteful war against eru and life.
Sauron is far from that kind of Nihilism... he is just a petty tyrant who is all but satisfied with his vision of rule, order, power, But Morgoth isn't happy with that at all.