That illustration is from 1928, according to Tolkien Gateway. Here are some other illustrations of the exterior by Tolkien. I'm not sure if they are earlier or later than that one:My real issue here is that this is not a very secretive presentation. But that seems common with Nargothrond art. Would this not be easily spotted by the enemy? Maybe the gate itself should be around a bend, in a bit of a Canton away from the face of the river, with a path leading around the river? I know the Guarded Plain is supposed to protect the gate from enemies coming near, but is that effective enough to keep it hidden for so long?
I do like the triple archway entrances, though I don't know what purpose they would serve, especially that close together.
Another piece depicting the entrance.
Obviously, this is like 60 seasons down the road, but I really like the architecture around the gate.
The Silmarillion describes Menegroth as "the fairest dwelling of any king that has ever been east of the sea.," so I don't think Menegroth is just a set of caves, and I don't think either it or Nargothrond come anywhere close to the Paths of the Dead as the film depicts them except maybe after Nargothrond has been pillaged by Glaurung. Finrod is highly impressed by Menegroth and wants it to emulate in Nargothrond, so I think the design of the two cities would have a lot in common, especially since both were made in collaboration with the Dwarves. The Noldor may bring their own design elements to the city rather than copying Menegroth exactly, but they are both cities of caves.And something for the interior.
This one I'm conflicted on. I always imagined Nargothrond as basically a maze or set of caves, but would the Noldor settle for something so like Menegroth? This could obviously tread close to the presentation of the Paths of the Dead in the film, but if done right could work.
Please do! That would be awesome!Another thing to consider, about sets altogether, is that I have some experience 3D modeling (for a LotR game) and could possibly put together some 3D sets. They would likely be very ameteurish, little lighting, etc. but it would be something. Just something I'm considering.
That illustration is from 1928, according to Tolkien Gateway. Here are some other illustrations of the exterior by Tolkien. I'm not sure if they are earlier or later than that one:
These are a bit more stylized than the other one, but the entrance seems a little less obvious. Three arches seem to be a standard feature. I can't really guess their scale from these images. Based on the size of the steps, the entrances seem pretty small, but the bridge looks ridiculously slim in comparison. Ignoring the steps and guessing the scale assuming the bridge is large enough for several man-sized beings to walk abreast, the doors would be pretty large. However the doors are made, the Elves of Nargothrond could certainly conceal them with foliage.
I, too, like the architecture in this illustration, particularly the pointed arches and the capitals. An entrance this elaborate would be highly impractical for a city that is trying to hide, of course. Free-standing columns outside the secret entrance? Really? If we have something like this for the entrance, it should probably be added after the bridge is built.
I think my favorite thing about this illustration is that the bridge in the top right crosses the river above the cliff the entrance is set in, suggesting that the entrance itself is tucked out of view at a lower point in the cliff.
Oh, I meant no offense to Menegroth (though Gondolin may have something to say about all that "fairest" stuff ) just that I think it would be more visually pleasing to differentiate the two.The Silmarillion describes Menegroth as "the fairest dwelling of any king that has ever been east of the sea.," so I don't think Menegroth is just a set of caves, and I don't think either it or Nargothrond come anywhere close to the Paths of the Dead as the film depicts them except maybe after Nargothrond has been pillaged by Glaurung. Finrod is highly impressed by Menegroth and wants it to emulate in Nargothrond, so I think the design of the two cities would have a lot in common, especially since both were made in collaboration with the Dwarves. The Noldor may bring their own design elements to the city rather than copying Menegroth exactly, but they are both cities of caves.
That illustration, interestingly, seems to depict the river itself as flowing so deep in a gorge that it is practically underground and the city itself carved from the living rock but not hidden within it.
I may do it.Please do! That would be awesome!
YES! A few additional things to help with the illusion that I don't think you could show on Minecraft are that the pillars and tunnel would be made from the same stone as the canyon wall, so they would be the same color; they would also be mostly naturally formed or made to look like they were, so even if the entrance itself was spotted, it would look like a natural cave rather than a major settlement; and the stairs would also look rough and fairly naturally-formed.
Yeah, I made it on the small side so that the gates would look like gates. But as for the stone, other than the stairs, it is the exact same material as ... 90 percent of the Minecraft world. Seeing the protruding stone on the side of a mountain is pretty commonplace and wouldn't likely attract very much attention.YES! A few additional things to help with the illusion that I don't think you could show on Minecraft are that the pillars and tunnel would be made from the same stone as the canyon wall, so they would be the same color; they would also be mostly naturally formed or made to look like they were, so even if the entrance itself was spotted, it would look like a natural cave rather than a major settlement; and the stairs would also look rough and fairly naturally-formed.
Also, it would be big enough for a Dragon to fit into.
Really cool! But the river would have to be a bit wider, so one would need a bridge to get across (which of course will be built later), right?