LadySchmebulock
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Okay right off the bat I am new to learning Tolkien's histories so 2019-2020 is my year of Tolkien reading so pardon any misunderstands I might have.
But I heard on an episode of The Prancing Pony Podcast and if I am remembering correctly it is possible that Elves that have perished their souls or spirits can be reincarnated.
Arwen has been compared to Lúthien so much and her love story parallels to Lúthien's as well. Could it be possible that Lúthien's spirit dwells in Arwen? Maybe not as a complete reincarnation but something of her is akin to Arwen? This is something I always wondered about just how much is stressed that Arwen is so much like Lúthien, and they are, but sometimes it makes me think that that there is more to that comparison than what is on the surface of the text. Is this just an observation that the people are making, is something of Lúthien dwelling inside Arwen or is it a case of Great Great Great (+) Grandmother like Granddaughter?
Also,
I do appreciate that Tolkien writes such strong and admirable ladies in his stories and the villainesses are also fantastically written. In many fantasy novels I've read growing up a majority of the female leads was either one-note characters, a prize for the hero to win, or constant damsels in distress whose character revolved around a man. But with Tolkien, his ladies are fascinating to read and are multidimensional and varied in strengths and weaknesses. My idol growing as a young girl and early teen was Xena Warrior Princess and after watching the trilogy in the 8th grade I added Eowyn and Galadriel to my list of role models and recently Lúthein when I read the Silmarillion. All of them are postive role models for girls especially those who love fantasy stories.
I've heard some people criticize Tolkien's writings being "anti-feminist" or too chauvinistic but I wholeheartedly disagree. Tolkien seems to hold the women in his stories in high regard some of which (Galadriel especially) are incredibly powerful if not the most powerful beings in Middle Earth. Even Rosie Cotton who has a smaller part is still beautifully written and has great strength in her as well. It's a subject I've given alot of thought to and am considering writing a Mythmoot paper about it.
Any feedback on my question is welcome and I can't wait to hear any thoughts ya'll have. I have been gone from class most of this past year due to my job but I'm glad to be again among my Tolkien loving friends.
Love y'all!
But I heard on an episode of The Prancing Pony Podcast and if I am remembering correctly it is possible that Elves that have perished their souls or spirits can be reincarnated.
Arwen has been compared to Lúthien so much and her love story parallels to Lúthien's as well. Could it be possible that Lúthien's spirit dwells in Arwen? Maybe not as a complete reincarnation but something of her is akin to Arwen? This is something I always wondered about just how much is stressed that Arwen is so much like Lúthien, and they are, but sometimes it makes me think that that there is more to that comparison than what is on the surface of the text. Is this just an observation that the people are making, is something of Lúthien dwelling inside Arwen or is it a case of Great Great Great (+) Grandmother like Granddaughter?
Also,
I do appreciate that Tolkien writes such strong and admirable ladies in his stories and the villainesses are also fantastically written. In many fantasy novels I've read growing up a majority of the female leads was either one-note characters, a prize for the hero to win, or constant damsels in distress whose character revolved around a man. But with Tolkien, his ladies are fascinating to read and are multidimensional and varied in strengths and weaknesses. My idol growing as a young girl and early teen was Xena Warrior Princess and after watching the trilogy in the 8th grade I added Eowyn and Galadriel to my list of role models and recently Lúthein when I read the Silmarillion. All of them are postive role models for girls especially those who love fantasy stories.
I've heard some people criticize Tolkien's writings being "anti-feminist" or too chauvinistic but I wholeheartedly disagree. Tolkien seems to hold the women in his stories in high regard some of which (Galadriel especially) are incredibly powerful if not the most powerful beings in Middle Earth. Even Rosie Cotton who has a smaller part is still beautifully written and has great strength in her as well. It's a subject I've given alot of thought to and am considering writing a Mythmoot paper about it.
Any feedback on my question is welcome and I can't wait to hear any thoughts ya'll have. I have been gone from class most of this past year due to my job but I'm glad to be again among my Tolkien loving friends.
Love y'all!