S03E03 Script Discussion

I suggest that the deserting orcs that Beleg encounters sneak out of Angband. There should be ways to exit apart from the main gate.

The army under Boldog should exit Angband at the end of the next episode. We have to have some arms race and preparations first, which could take a lot of time, maybe years, even. There’s no need to compress things more than we already have to. If the host starts marching now, they should enter East Beleriand while Sindar and Dwarves have their initial meeting.
 
The deserters here are meant to be from Gothmog's armies, far in the north. It's probably not too early for them. Perhaps we can figure out a way to delay Sauron's departure, though. I see your point about things moving...too fast...otherwise.
 
So you’re saying the orc army sets up a huge camp outside of Angband?

Boldog will go south way before Sauron according to our plan - he will lead the Western Host attacking the Falas going south west of Doriath.
 
So you’re saying the orc army sets up a huge camp outside of Angband?

Boldog will go south way before Sauron according to our plan - he will lead the Western Host attacking the Falas going south west of Doriath.

I though the plan was to have Boldog moving to flank Doriath in the East while Sauron attacks the havens.
 
Well yes, but the orcs are not as fast as the wolf/werewolf army, so they have to get moving earlier. Oh that’s really another discussion.

I still think the camp outside Angband is a bad idea.
 
There are at least two reasons to delay the exit of the orc army. One, we need a period of time for the Dwarves and Sindar to meet and to start making weapons. Two, the introduction of the army at this stage is a too early reveal. This is a build up.
There is simply no good reason to present their enormous numbers now. They multiply in the darkness of Angband.
 
I have an idea for Boldog down the road: Maybe he kills Angrod and Aegnor in the Dagor Bragollach? He's not really mentioned before the campaigns after Dagor Bragollach and having two Elven-lords on your kill tally could go toward a description of "formidable."
 
Oh, and as to why there are orcs outside of Angband - The Balrogs are guarding against an incursion from Valinor. Angand is not on the coast, so Morgoth wants his forces to defend the coastline.
 
Oh, and as to why there are orcs outside of Angband - The Balrogs are guarding against an incursion from Valinor. Angand is not on the coast, so Morgoth wants his forces to defend the coastline.
How well would a Balrog do against a Vala?
 
How well would a Balrog do against a Vala?

All of the Balrogs together were able to drive off Ungoliant at her most powerful. Long before she ate the Trees, she was able to take on Nessa and Tulkas together (in Season 1), though they did escape from her cave. So, the combined might of the balrogs is formidable, though it's no match for the combined might of the Valar.
 
Yes, Gothmog and the balrogs are in charge of these orcs.

We have roughly 10 balrogs left after the War of the Powers.
 
The orcs wozld also send out spies and scouts to clear the area for the march, so there would be good readons to encounter smaller groups of orcs before the main host is set in march
 
These particular orcs are deserters, not scouts, but yes, there will be some orcs that enter Beleriand ahead of Boldog's army, no doubt.
 
Season 3 Episode 3: Meanwhile in Beleriand (working title only)

Protagonist: Estel. The Frame will be the primary storyline in this episode.
Characters: Estel, Elladan, Elrohir, Elrond, Gilraen.
The Valar, Ossë, Uinen, Melkor/Morgoth, Gothmog, Mairon/Sauron, Boldog, Thuringwethil, Círdan, Celeborn, Thingol, Melian, Beleg, Mablung, Lúthien, Daeron, Eöl
Introductions: Lúthien, Daeron, orcs
Final Appearances: N/A

Summary:
What is an orc? The residents of Angband, Beleriand, and young Estel are learning that the hard way.
Theme: Loss of innocence


Teaser: Frame: Rivendell - Elrond tells an anxious Gilraen that there is no news yet of her missing son, but that his sons will find him and bring him home soon. She expresses gratitude that they're searching for him, and some embarrassed anger over her son recklessly putting others at risk for no reason. [The 'I don't know whether to hug him or punish him when I see him again' reaction] Sixteen-year-old Estel is standing on some rocky promontory on a wooded mountainside, watching a storm roll in. He seems rather unconcerned and happy where he is.

ACT 1

1. Mahanaxar - The Valar sit/stand in the destroyed Ring of Doom in the aftermath of the Kinslaying. Nienna is not the only one weeping. Some, like Tulkas, express anger, saying that they could have put a stop to all of this. Ulmo, who has been still and quiet, responds that he could have stopped it, but then there would be no Noldor, and no Teleri, and no Alqualondë. He's....furious. Manwë reiterates why he thinks it best to not interfere at this time - that there is still a chance to save the Noldor from themselves. [Vairë and Mandos conspicuously absent, caring for the dead?]

2. Tol Eressëa - Ossë and Uinen are grieving the loss of the Teleri. Uinen is inconsolable, as she was closest to them. [Recall that Ossë has been banned from the coast of Valinor, and is not allowed any nearer than where he anchored this island.] When they see the fleet of stolen swanships leave the ruined harbor of Alqualondë, Uinen's grief turns to rage, and, though Ossë attempts to remind her that they are not to interfere, her wordless rage calls up a storm that she hurls at the ships. The (remaining) Teleri of Alqualondë see the storm coming, and the Noldor on the ships, who are not mariners, start to panic.

3. Frame: Misty Mountains - Estel has taken shelter under an overhanging rock to wait out the storm. While he is waiting there, Elladan and Elrohir come upon him. The twins inform Estel that they were sent to look for him, and that he worried his mother, leaving like that. Estel informs them that he's not going back, but if they want to come with him, they can. After realizing that they can't argue with the boy, the brothers decide to tag along with him until he's ready to be less hard-headed.

4. Angband - Melkor outlines his strategy for the time being. He fears retaliation from Valinor - the Valar, and probably Fëanor, are going to be coming for him after what he did to them, so he wants to be prepared. Gothmog and his balrogs will take orcs and defend the North from the West. Sauron, who has made no progress on finding the whereabouts of Ungoliant, is sent to conquer the South. His instructions concerning the elves are 'Kill them all.' He may seem a bit surprised or taken aback by that order, but he's not in a position to call it into question, either. Glimpse of poorly-lit dungeons full of unhappy creatures.

ACT 2
5. Coast of Valinor - The storm of Uinen slams into the Teleri ships. They are all battered and lose direction and are clearly no longer being controlled by the Noldor...but the ships are sturdy and most of them survive anyway. Some do sink.

6. Eglarest - We cross the ocean to Beleriand. Círdan is standing and looking out to sea, troubled. It's overcast (few stars), and the water is a bit choppy, but there is no storm here; it's quiet, if windy. [Establishing shot of the town and port of Eglarest (early days).] Celeborn has come from Thingol (Elwë) for news, and so Círdan happily shows him the newest ship they have built (it is not nearly as fine as the swanships). [Audience hears the name 'Thingol' for the first time; perhaps Círdan still refers to him as Elwë.]

7. Doriath - Thingol's wandering woodland Court. These are the days of peace in Beleriand, so we should see what the Sindar are like before any wars trouble them - time for a party scene! [All of these characters need to be introduced (or reintroduced) by name.] Thingol and Melian are presiding over a feast in a well-lit forest glade (lots of lanterns and/or torches illuminate the space). Mablung and Beleg are there. We establish the dynamics of the court. Thingol [in his eponymous grey cloak given to him by the Valar] is clearly the king and ruler, but the Court is fairly informal [maybe reminiscent of Elrond as Lord of Rivendell, rather than the court of the Noldor in Tirion, but should remind us of Olwë's court in Alqualondë, as well]. While there has been music and probably some dancing during the feast, afterwards someone requests that Lúthien dance. She is seated next to Melian, and she is revealed to be Melian's daughter. A hush falls, and a single musician (Daeron) provides music while Lúthien dances. [This is her entrance, make it count! Flowers blooming at her footfalls is not overdoing it.]

8. Frame: Misty Mountains (foothills) - Elladan, Elrohir, and Estel come upon fresh orc tracks (or some other indication that orcs have passed by recently). Elladan immediately wants to follow them, but Elrohir reminds him that they have Estel with them and should be more cautious. They agree to at least follow the trail and find out why these orcs are coming down out of the mountains, what they are up to.

ACT 3

9. Doriath - Sometime after the feast, Celeborn returns to Thingol with his report from Círdan. While Círdan has no news to report, he too has been uneasy and shares Melian's concern that something is not right. The raising of Thangorodrim was seen from a distance and reported to Thingol, but no one knows what it means yet. Melian says something cryptically disturbing, but she suspects this has something to do with Melkor. Thingol orders Beleg, Mablung, and Celeborn to take a few companions and go out again (Beleg to the west, Mablung to the east, and Celeborn to the north) to see if they can find any indication of what has happened.

10. Doriath - Daeron and Lúthien have a moment to discuss life and establish their totally platonic friendship. It is revealed at this point that they are *not* related - no one should think he is her brother after this (but they probably never actually touch one another. Ever.) They are the younger generation, and have only known life in Beleriand. They have a shared enthusiasm for the arts and creativity.

11. Frame: Misty Mountains (foothills) - As they follow the track of the orcs, Elladan lets everyone know how he really feels about the creatures. Estel interrupts this to say, 'Wait...doesn't your father say that no creature is evil from the beginning?' Elrohir is left with the awkward task of trying to defend his father's words while agreeing with his brother - something along the lines of, 'Well, they're evil now.' The trail of the orcs turns, and Elladan and Elrohir stop and exchange a look. If this is an orc scouting party, it is headed towards a Dunedain village. Elladan points out that they can't afford to let the orcs find their target, so Elrohir instructs Estel to wait for them. Estel point out that he'll just follow them anyway. They continue on despite Estel's presence.

12. Angband - Mairon is in the orc-training pits, observing. Boldog is there, keeping them in line. Thuringwethil finds Mairon there and tells him that he'll have to keep a close eye on his troops, because Gothmog's group has had deserters. [Gothmog has taken an army of orcs to guard the western coast in the north from any attack from Valinor; this is discussed on screen, but not shown.]

ACT 4
13. Western Beleriand - Beleg's party roaming towards Ered Wethrin comes upon a group of orcs, but from a distance. [These are some of the deserters from Gothmog's army that Thuringwethil mentioned to Mairon.] The elves decide to follow them and find out who or what these creatures are. Some confusion among the elves about whether these are beasts or 'ones who speak'.

14. Western Beleriand - First contact between elves and orcs. The elves approach cautiously to see a distasteful scene - the group of about 20 beings are eating bloody meat/organs while a tree nearby is haphazardly set on fire. Beleg calls out to them, and the creatures turn to see the elves. Everyone is startled at first. There are some attempts to communicate, but they don't speak the same languages. Some critical mis-step leads to an outbreak of sudden violence. The orcs attack the elves, outnumbering them.

15. Frame: Eriador - Elladan and Elrohir come upon the orcs. There is no hesitation - instant deadly fighting. Estel is trained, but has never been in a real combat situation before. So, he's not clumsy, but he is ineffective - one orc is enough to keep him busy, but he does kill it in the end. Elladan and Elrohir kill the rest of the scouts, making sure none escape.

16. Western Beleriand - The elves do not have steel weapons and are not wearing armor. Beleg's arrows are stopped by the orc armor, so he has a hard time stopping them. He recovers the weapon of one of the fallen orcs and uses that to kill them. Once the orcs see that their opponent is killing them, they flee. Beleg's companions are dead. His bow is broken. [He does not say, "I'm gonna need a bigger bow." But he does.]

Tag: Frame: Eriador - Aftermath of Estel's first orc kill. He cleans his sword, washing the blood off his clothes in a stream.

Tag (Part 2):
Mount Dolmed - Eöl is meeting with an unseen person in a dark cave lit by firelight from a forge. A voice from within the cave calls out to him by name. [The unknown person is a dwarf (probably Telchar); the audience does not see this person.]
 
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