RogerWilco
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Hello all,
First time posting here. I've been working to get caught up for a year and a half and I'm finally there! It's good to be finally joining you all for the conversation. Since we are about to be going through similar questions in the text I thought now would be a good time to bring this up.
What would an unfallen Sauron look like? If everything that was essential to Sauron remained part of his character but in an uncorrupted state, what would he be like?
It is perhaps not necessary that he should be so incredibly different. Is the desire for a land of your own design and making evil? As a sub-creator himself, Tolkien answers a definite no to that question and argues that the creative impulse is entirely natural to created beings. As the sub-creator of your own little world, there is naturally a power over that subcreation. Even authority over one's subjects, when properly understood, can be without corruption. Aule's making of the Dwarves is an excellent example of this.
So when I begin the thought experiment of what Sauron's story might have been if he simply hadn't fallen in with Melkor, I reach a somewhat startling conclusion. Imagine one of the Ainur, a Maia, joining in the Song of Illuvatar. He sings the theme, and puts in his own particular flourishes that express his creative impulses. Entering into the world at the beginning of time, he is tickled pink to see that his flourishes have been given form; a land of his own devising. And being given permission to continue sub-creating and finishing the work, he gladly enters into his own creation and becomes a part of it, its sub-creative animating spirit in a derivative but very real way.
Whereas the Valar did this same thing with major elemental things (the oceans, the skies, the very ground itself, etc.), I'd expect to see this particular Ainur's domain take on a much smaller, more local size. I wouldn't be surprised to see it develop into a realm with distinct geographical borders. He would have a real authority over it. Those that enter into the realm would naturally be subject to that authority. He could be quite powerful in his own realm, a sub-creative and derivative image of Illuvatar.
But here is where the picture begins to differ. An unfallen Sauron would be content with those geographic borders, he would have a love of home without expansionism. Authority in his realm would be properly understood as necessary to achieving its design. Creatures that enter in would be subjects but never slaves. And the land would take its being and shape from him, but without Ownership. An unfallen Sauron should look out on the realm he has sung into existence with joy and satisfaction, seeing it for the world he created and yet love it as something apart from himself.
And so, when I come to the conclusion of this exercise, I arrive at a very startling picture of what it looks like to be Sauron as he should have been. And I have no difficulty believing that in addition to all these things, he just might be the type to wear yellow boots.
First time posting here. I've been working to get caught up for a year and a half and I'm finally there! It's good to be finally joining you all for the conversation. Since we are about to be going through similar questions in the text I thought now would be a good time to bring this up.
What would an unfallen Sauron look like? If everything that was essential to Sauron remained part of his character but in an uncorrupted state, what would he be like?
It is perhaps not necessary that he should be so incredibly different. Is the desire for a land of your own design and making evil? As a sub-creator himself, Tolkien answers a definite no to that question and argues that the creative impulse is entirely natural to created beings. As the sub-creator of your own little world, there is naturally a power over that subcreation. Even authority over one's subjects, when properly understood, can be without corruption. Aule's making of the Dwarves is an excellent example of this.
So when I begin the thought experiment of what Sauron's story might have been if he simply hadn't fallen in with Melkor, I reach a somewhat startling conclusion. Imagine one of the Ainur, a Maia, joining in the Song of Illuvatar. He sings the theme, and puts in his own particular flourishes that express his creative impulses. Entering into the world at the beginning of time, he is tickled pink to see that his flourishes have been given form; a land of his own devising. And being given permission to continue sub-creating and finishing the work, he gladly enters into his own creation and becomes a part of it, its sub-creative animating spirit in a derivative but very real way.
Whereas the Valar did this same thing with major elemental things (the oceans, the skies, the very ground itself, etc.), I'd expect to see this particular Ainur's domain take on a much smaller, more local size. I wouldn't be surprised to see it develop into a realm with distinct geographical borders. He would have a real authority over it. Those that enter into the realm would naturally be subject to that authority. He could be quite powerful in his own realm, a sub-creative and derivative image of Illuvatar.
But here is where the picture begins to differ. An unfallen Sauron would be content with those geographic borders, he would have a love of home without expansionism. Authority in his realm would be properly understood as necessary to achieving its design. Creatures that enter in would be subjects but never slaves. And the land would take its being and shape from him, but without Ownership. An unfallen Sauron should look out on the realm he has sung into existence with joy and satisfaction, seeing it for the world he created and yet love it as something apart from himself.
And so, when I come to the conclusion of this exercise, I arrive at a very startling picture of what it looks like to be Sauron as he should have been. And I have no difficulty believing that in addition to all these things, he just might be the type to wear yellow boots.