As described in the text, the assault seems to have the following components: The initial assault, which is presumably quick, and results in the death of many Haladin at their scattered homesteads in southern Thargelion. The erection of the stockade, which does not seem to exist prior to the attack, but to be a response to the assault organized by Haldad. The siege of the stockade, which lasts long enough for them to exhaust their food supply. Then comes the sortie, in which Haldad is killed, and Haldar as well when he rushes out to try to save their father (or his body, anyway). From that point on, Haleth is holding her people together inside the stockade, trying to repel the orc army which (presumably) tries to attack them each night. The siege lasts for another week, at which point the orcs break through and Caranthir arrives to save the day.Therefore [Morgoth] sent out an Orc-raid, and passing east it escaped the leaguer, and came in stealth back over Ered Lindon by the passes of the Dwarf-road, and fell upon the Haladin in the southern woods of the land of Caranthir.
Now the Haladin did not live under the rule of lords or many together, but each homestead was set apart and governed its own affairs, and they were slow to unite. But there was among them a man named Haldad, who was masterful and fearless; and he gathered all the brave men that he could find, and retreated to the angle of land between Ascar and Gelion, and in the utmost corner he built a stockade across from water to water; and behind it they led all the women and children that they could save. There they were besieged, until their food was gone.
Haldad had twin children: Haleth his daughter, and Haldar his son; and both were valiant in the defense, for Haleth was a woman of great heart and strength. But at last Haldad was slain in a sortie against the Orcs; and Haldar, who rushed out to save his father's body from their butchery, was hewn down beside him. Then Haleth held the people together, though they were without hope; and some cast themselves into the rivers and were drowned. But seven days later, as the Orcs made their last assault and had already broken through the stockade, there came a sudden music of trumpets, and Caranthir with his host came down from the north and drove the Orcs into the rivers.
So how did the decision to put a good chunk of Haleth's story in flashback crop up?This discussion ran long, as we made some interesting choices with the storyline in this episode.
The main story actually focuses on....16 year old Haleth, 14 years before the Stockade Battle.
Due to working out this new material, we didn't have the time to flesh out the Aredhel/Eöl, Dwarf, and Caranthir scenes in this Episode (they are now the C-plot), so we'll have to do that here. The basic idea of what should happen in those scenes is clear, but we didn't actually work them out yet, so each scene is just a placeholder for now.
Take a look!
The Silmarillion Film Project Season 5, Episode 4: Unwelcome Central conflict: A-Plot: Young Haleth (16) in Thargelion, as her father unites their people behind the mission to build themselves a safe refuge in the aftermath of a monster attack. But how can you protect yourselves from the mons...docs.google.com
(Ange1e4e5, I think you will find that Nick worked hard to incorporate an element of the story you might enjoy.)
Does Aredhel know how to speak Khuzdul?So, it's long past time for me to bring this up, but I have some concerns about the scenes with Aredhel, Eöl, and the dwarves. The main problem is that there is no language barrier between Aredhel and the dwarves. Sure, Aredhel and Eöl could speak only Quenya to each other, but how does Eöl engineer that? Especially if these are dwarves with whom Aredhel has previously interacted.
I have other concerns about these: if Aredhel intended to try and elevate Eol up to be an Elf-Lord, a peer of, say Fingon, what will make Eol throw up his hands, hijack Aredhel’s contact with outsiders, and shunt Aredhel’s aspirations away?So, it's long past time for me to bring this up, but I have some concerns about the scenes with Aredhel, Eöl, and the dwarves. The main problem is that there is no language barrier between Aredhel and the dwarves. Sure, Aredhel and Eöl could speak only Quenya to each other, but how does Eöl engineer that? Especially if these are dwarves with whom Aredhel has previously interacted.
Mainly? Misanthropy. He doesn't want any of that. He may convince himself that he does early in his relationship with Aredhel, but that only lasts so long.I have other concerns about these: if Aredhel intended to try and elevate Eol up to be an Elf-Lord, a peer of, say Fingon, what will make Eol throw up his hands, hijack Aredhel’s contact with outsiders, and shunt Aredhel’s aspirations away?
These are Dwarves that don’t know Aredhel, right? If they do know her it might be a bit harder to justify why they can’t speak to her directly.So, as I'm thinking about it, we could add a bit of gaslighting to the mix here. Eöl
maintains control of the meet, speaking to the dwarves in Khudzul and telling them to speak only to him. They comply because he makes them nervous. When she does speak to them, bringing up her "mission", they are confused, maybe even a bit suspicious. They ask Eöl what she's talking about (in Khudzul) and he waves it off somehow. As they're leaving, he convinces her that she has offended them somehow.
What do we think?