Nicholas Palazzo
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Script Discussion S06E07
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I mentioned the villains of Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles in the Tokyo Revelations arc as an example of the death of Thuringwethil.
Here is the end of part 1, in which the underling betrays the master by aiding a trapped prisoner in his escape.
22:59-23:36
Here is part 2, in which the villain has a long backstory monologue, explaining how he created a clone of Syaoran.
At the beginning of this, we see him seated on a throne, looking at a magic mirror to see current events:
As the story progresses, we see that he seems to be telling this story to a person in the room with him.
At the end of this history lesson, it is revealed that she was not exactly in a state to be listening to him.
2:44-3:04
I don't think we have such a calm Sauron in our episode 7, but I do think that his reaction to the death of Thuringwethil can be entirely self-centered. Sure, she's dying, but he just lost everything.
Here is the end of part 1, in which the underling betrays the master by aiding a trapped prisoner in his escape.
22:59-23:36
Here is part 2, in which the villain has a long backstory monologue, explaining how he created a clone of Syaoran.
At the beginning of this, we see him seated on a throne, looking at a magic mirror to see current events:
As the story progresses, we see that he seems to be telling this story to a person in the room with him.
At the end of this history lesson, it is revealed that she was not exactly in a state to be listening to him.
2:44-3:04
I don't think we have such a calm Sauron in our episode 7, but I do think that his reaction to the death of Thuringwethil can be entirely self-centered. Sure, she's dying, but he just lost everything.
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And here is the Outline:
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A recording of the Script Discussion may be found here:
On Signum U's Twitch: The Silmarillion Film Project Script Discussion Season 6 Episode 7
Script Outline - S06E07
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A recording of the Script Discussion may be found here:
On Signum U's Twitch: The Silmarillion Film Project Script Discussion Season 6 Episode 7
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We also had a rather intense discussion focusing on prison design, as Tol Sirion likely did not originally contain a dungeon and has been recently retrofitted to accommodate prisoners.
We settled on a series of oubliettes, open at the top, which would allow werewolves to jump down into them to kill prisoners, and then jump back out again to leave. There's not a clear way for the prisoners to climb out. These pits could have originally been used as storage bins, possibly for grain.
We settled on a series of oubliettes, open at the top, which would allow werewolves to jump down into them to kill prisoners, and then jump back out again to leave. There's not a clear way for the prisoners to climb out. These pits could have originally been used as storage bins, possibly for grain.
The key design requirements were:
1) retrofitted storerooms
2) Finrod and Beren must be imprisoned close enough to one another to speak conversationally, but not so close that they can touch one another.
3) werewolves need to be able to enter and leave the space at will
4) structurally sound enough to allow someone imprisoned inside to survive the fall of the tower
5) plausible that a werewolf attack can be heard but not seen by the other prisoners, and that fellow prisoners are realistically unable to do anything about these werewolf attacks.
1) retrofitted storerooms
2) Finrod and Beren must be imprisoned close enough to one another to speak conversationally, but not so close that they can touch one another.
3) werewolves need to be able to enter and leave the space at will
4) structurally sound enough to allow someone imprisoned inside to survive the fall of the tower
5) plausible that a werewolf attack can be heard but not seen by the other prisoners, and that fellow prisoners are realistically unable to do anything about these werewolf attacks.
What? No Gimli the blind gnome???
Honestly, we did not discuss the other prisoners at all, though presumably they could be shown escaping when Lúthien sings her song of healing. We will deal with their return to Nargothrond (and Doriath) next episode.
Octoburn
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Someone please enlighten me.
I've heard it referred to in a couple of the podcast sessions this season, as well as this script discussion, but I could find nothing on it in any sessions of previous scripts/outlines, nor do I recall it from anything I've listened in on before (but you'll realize my memory is like that) but what the heck is the "double voice" thing in reference to Sauron?
I've heard it referred to in a couple of the podcast sessions this season, as well as this script discussion, but I could find nothing on it in any sessions of previous scripts/outlines, nor do I recall it from anything I've listened in on before (but you'll realize my memory is like that
) but what the heck is the "double voice" thing in reference to Sauron?
Nicholas Palazzo
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I am reasonably certain it comes from our discussions surrounding the Mereth Aderthad in S04. I don't recall if we came up with it during the script discussion or if it came from the main podcast.Someone please enlighten me.
I've heard it referred to in a couple of the podcast sessions this season, as well as this script discussion, but I could find nothing on it in any sessions of previous scripts/outlines, nor do I recall it from anything I've listened in on before (but you'll realize my memory is like that
PS. It is also not impossible that it started back in S03 with the capture of Maedhros.
Nicholas Palazzo
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Basically, because Sauron is not incarnate, his voice could be whatever he wants it to be, so why not be able to sing harmony with himself?
Yes, this idea originated in Season 3 with the capture of Maedhros. The idea was that, yes, Sauron is not human (or elf, or even incarnate), so he can do something unusual like this...and that he's performing magic in that moment, so it signals that something weird is going on, and he's making it happen. If I recall correctly, this was first suggested by Haakon on the boards.
It was then reprised in Season 4 with the Mereth Aderthad, when Sauron once again uses magic to influence elves - this time with the assistance of a hurdy-gurdy.
It was then reprised in Season 4 with the Mereth Aderthad, when Sauron once again uses magic to influence elves - this time with the assistance of a hurdy-gurdy.