Rob Harding
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He isn't completely incarnate at that point? I thought he was by the time he visited Hildorien and certainly the time he dueled Fingolfin?
Anyway... i think of Melkor as a corruptor, so when he becomes aware of Luthien he would wish to corrupt her, spoiling her by harassing and contaminating her physically would suit him, that incorporates sexually, no hormones needed, it is domination and humiliation.
Could Daeron be planted as precursor of this. Obviously he obsesses over Luthien and his response after being spurned implies an unhealthy layer to this. Luthien, after being objectified, would likely respond unfavourably and we can plant the seeds that she is not the sort of woman who takes being idealised and objectified lightly. So when we see Morgoth lusting after her we are like ‘oh, he’s opened a can of worms here. If there was one thing he should not have done it’s turn her into an object of domination.’ Beren could even see this, and than rather trying to be defensive in this moment we could see him letting Lúthien take control of standing up for herself without him feeling the need to be her protector. Maybe he’s been defensive of her early on but after their long journey he fully appreciates the power she holds more than before. I mean, I don’t think he should ever see her as a damsel in distress but he is a warrior who fights for what he loves. And we could see him react very strongly to Daeron perhaps and has to be quelled by Luthien. And with Morgoth he realises she can take on a dark god in a way he just can’t and doesn’t need to on her behalf. Maybe not that specifically, but you get what I mean. The finale being a moment in their relationship empowering to the both and showing they fully understand who they are together that leads to the defeat of the darkness