Timdalf
Active Member
Well, aside from all the hair-splitting attempts to avoid giving the lie to the lies of various characters in Tolkien -- provoked by a listener question about why Gandalf did not lie to Saruman -- my example of one BIG lie, is the march of Aragorn and Co on Mordor as a diversion to give Frodo and Sam a chance to make it through Mordor... Yes? No? And I do not subscribe to this not using the enemy's means is always to be strictly adhered to... The ultimate classic example is Jesus Christ fooling the devil with His humanity to achieve Salvation. This is an old trope among Church Fathers.... It is an out and out deception. And exacctly parallle to Aragorn's march on Mordor...