Osgiliath Ashes and Stars quests


In a never-ending endeavor to complete everything, I would like to get all my trait points on one of my level capped characters. He is Helting, a 105 minstrel.

This is the quest that grants the trait point, they start in the Osgiliath culverts (I've always went in from the "before battle Osgiliath", but maybe you can get there from the "after battle" version?). https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Quest:Ashes_and_Stars,_Chapter_4

Anyone else need these?