Yes, more or less! I agree with most of your conclusions. Keep in mind though that the earlier seasons only exist in the form of outlines, and it should be possible to include info and reminders about this stuff when/if they're turned into scripts.What do you guys think about this? Am I correct in my assumptions about the state of Huan's Prophecy in SilmFilm so far?
I think we might want to consider introducing Carcaroth next season. It was discussed briefly here: DISCUSSION ABOUT CARCAROTH'S INTRO (posts #208-#239 I believe)Also, we need to reveal it to the villains since both Sauron and Morgoth are influenced by it in their actions. As was already mentioned, this should take place in Season 5: Morgoth takes some time, like he did with Glaurung, to prepare Carcharoth, who we could more or less directly tease in Season 5 if we want to. Also, after the Dagor Bragollach when the leaguer is broken, Huan retreats from the front lines and will be far away and hidden in Nargothrond; he loses a lot of relevance to the forces of Angband at that point, so the villain storyline of Season 6 isn't a good fit for introducing his prophecy in a timely manner.
Thinking about this, having had the explicit prophecy a few seasons ago wouldn't do us much good anyway...we'd have to have a "Remember this? It's finally relevant now!" moment because it was so long ago, and considering how many times Huan has fought without worry already bringing it up now would be like showing Chekhov's figurative gun and doing nothing with it for a long time, and then before it's finally used someone reminds everyone that the gun has been there the whole time.Yes, more or less! I agree with most of your conclusions. Keep in mind though that the earlier seasons only exist in the form of outlines, and it should be possible to include info and reminders about this stuff when/if they're turned into scripts.
Thanks for the link! I don't really mind introducing him in Season 6, in fact it's probably best to keep him secret until after Sauron loses to Huan; that Huan manages to defeat Sauron and Draugluin is a great eucatastrophic moment in the story, which would be robbed of surprise and tension if the viewers know that Huan can't die here and Sauron has to fail because he lacks crucial information.
YES.It would be better to just have a moment clearly establishing that in regards to the Doom of Mandos, Huan is firstly a character affected by it - not just a pet who Mandos isn't including in the group of people he's adressing by default - and secondly has agency and moral responsibility, who makes a conscious choice to stay faithful to Celegorm and knows he's dooming himself in the process.
I'd portray this first in Episode 7 of Season 3 by showing him listening (as much as you can make that clear with a dog) to the Doom, and then lingering and looking back for a bit before he turns around to catch up to Celegorm and the others on his own accord (without being called or looked for).
Well, I like the idea to some degree, but...maybe I feel that if the Valar started to talk about Huan at that point, we'd risk either making too much of it (he's a fairly minor character after all), or it would be a casual comment that perhaps not get noticed or not make much sense. I'm not saying I'm against it though.In the script outline for Episode 11 of Season 3, when the Valar discuss whether they should intervene in Middle-Earth, Yavanna doesn't want to abandon Middle-Earth to Morgoth. I'd add to that by having Orome championing one of the opposing arguments (the "It's their free will to fight Morgoth" one would probably fit best), to which Yavanna replies that Orome's chief hound has fallen under the Doom of Woe out of loyalty and is in danger if they don't help the inhabitants of Middle-Earth. Orome replies that Huan chose to stay loyal to Celegorm on his own (which is important considering he will choose to abandon Celegorm for Luthien later on), and that his willingness to pay this price secures him a part in the songs (the ones Feanor mentioned in his reply to Manwe and were brought up at the beginning of this scene).
I think it's the best argument Yavanna can employ, firstly against Orome's free will argument (because she doesn't regard Huan's decision as truly free considering his loyal nature and that Orome made Celegorm his master) and secondly against his disregard for the lives that will be lost in the battles to come - she figures that if there's anyone Orome cares about among the exiles, it's Huan.Well, I like the idea to some degree, but...maybe I feel that if the Valar started to talk about Huan at that point, we'd risk either making too much of it (he's a fairly minor character after all), or it would be a casual comment that perhaps not get noticed or not make much sense. I'm not saying I'm against it though.