Clueless Noob
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Why is there a Council at all?? There are only 4 groups / people who show up.
1) "Golum escaped." -Legolas
"I read that on Gwaihir's blog a couple of weeks ago, but thanks for the corroboration." - Gandalf
2) "Sauron's emmisary showed up at our door. Dain wants to know what to do." -Gloin
"The lamps are going out all overEurope Middle Earth. Resist. And keep on resisting. Know that you are not alone." -Elrond
3) "Looks like bad things are happening, and Cirdan wants to know what's up." -Elves from the Havens
"The One Ring has been found and we're putting together a plan to destroy it." - Elrond
4) "Ulmo sent us this weird, cryptic dream. Help"
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Seems to me that Boromir is the only one there who actually needs the long explanations. And that's really only to convince him that Aragorn is who he says he is. But why does that matter? Denethor is the guy who will need convincing when the time comes, and even Boromir will have trouble helping in that debate.
The three people who matter (Elrond, Gandalf, and Aragorn) already know that the ring needs to be destroyed. Everyone else (besides Legolas) is there to get advice. Why would they argue with the advice that they specifically came to get?
"Our advice is to throw the Ring into the Fire" - Elrond
"OK. Sounds good. Thanks for the update." - Everyone Else
Edited to add:
And there were some Hobbits there. They didn't come for advice specifically. Gandalf sent Frodo "towards danger, but not to rashly. I suggest you make for Rivendell." (no book - I think I got the quote right-ish). Frodo has been taking Gandalf's advice since forever. There's no reason to convince him of anything. "I wish to destroy the ring, or rather to have it destroyed." Frodo didn't need help coming to that conclusion. And he had made up his mind that Aragorn was non-glittery gold long before in Bree. So the question stands: why all the yapping?
1) "Golum escaped." -Legolas
"I read that on Gwaihir's blog a couple of weeks ago, but thanks for the corroboration." - Gandalf
2) "Sauron's emmisary showed up at our door. Dain wants to know what to do." -Gloin
"The lamps are going out all over
3) "Looks like bad things are happening, and Cirdan wants to know what's up." -Elves from the Havens
"The One Ring has been found and we're putting together a plan to destroy it." - Elrond
4) "Ulmo sent us this weird, cryptic dream. Help"
...
Seems to me that Boromir is the only one there who actually needs the long explanations. And that's really only to convince him that Aragorn is who he says he is. But why does that matter? Denethor is the guy who will need convincing when the time comes, and even Boromir will have trouble helping in that debate.
The three people who matter (Elrond, Gandalf, and Aragorn) already know that the ring needs to be destroyed. Everyone else (besides Legolas) is there to get advice. Why would they argue with the advice that they specifically came to get?
"Our advice is to throw the Ring into the Fire" - Elrond
"OK. Sounds good. Thanks for the update." - Everyone Else
Edited to add:
And there were some Hobbits there. They didn't come for advice specifically. Gandalf sent Frodo "towards danger, but not to rashly. I suggest you make for Rivendell." (no book - I think I got the quote right-ish). Frodo has been taking Gandalf's advice since forever. There's no reason to convince him of anything. "I wish to destroy the ring, or rather to have it destroyed." Frodo didn't need help coming to that conclusion. And he had made up his mind that Aragorn was non-glittery gold long before in Bree. So the question stands: why all the yapping?
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