JulesWinnfield
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Is it possible that Gandalf's use of the passive voice in this sentence, coupled with Elrond's preemption of Bilbo's 111st birthday story, demonstrate a coordinated strategy by these Wise? What would that serve?
By omitting that detail, Gandalf and Elrond avoid weakening their argument for the conclusion they want the Council to draw: that the ring should be cast into the fire of Mt. Doom. If Galdor, Boromir et. al. knew how hard it was for Bilbo to give up the ring to his heir in a planned devolution, it might not be hard for them to imagine the difficulty a hypothetical bearer might have actually dropping the thing into a lava cauldron in Mordor.
Morally, this is a somewhat fraught argument. It seems to imply that Gandalf and Elrond foresaw exactly what winds up happening to Frodo in the Sammath Naur; that they were sending the bearer on an even more hopeless errand than they revealed to the council; and that they predicted that the destruction of the ring would probably require an act of providence - or at least the encouragement of the bearer by the revelation of Gandalf the Grey uncloaked.
By omitting that detail, Gandalf and Elrond avoid weakening their argument for the conclusion they want the Council to draw: that the ring should be cast into the fire of Mt. Doom. If Galdor, Boromir et. al. knew how hard it was for Bilbo to give up the ring to his heir in a planned devolution, it might not be hard for them to imagine the difficulty a hypothetical bearer might have actually dropping the thing into a lava cauldron in Mordor.
Morally, this is a somewhat fraught argument. It seems to imply that Gandalf and Elrond foresaw exactly what winds up happening to Frodo in the Sammath Naur; that they were sending the bearer on an even more hopeless errand than they revealed to the council; and that they predicted that the destruction of the ring would probably require an act of providence - or at least the encouragement of the bearer by the revelation of Gandalf the Grey uncloaked.
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