Still catching up here; episode 190 now. I am fascinated by the discussion of the list of heroes Elrond names when numbering Frodo among them, which Prof. Olsen points out specifically with reference to Turin. One thing that struck me about Turin was that perhaps Elrond is hinting at a darker significance here when bringing up Turin. What of the possibility that Elrond brings up Turin because Turin tended to be his own worst enemy? He was self-destructive in so many different ways: the death of Beleg, self-imposed exile thereafter, taking multiple new names that led to the tragedy with his sister, and his ultimate suicide. I don't know how valid it may be, but bringing up Turin is an interesting bit of foreshadowing about the eventual end of the quest, when Frodo gives in to the ring's temptation after passing so many of the other challenges along the way.