Haerangil
Well-Known Member
I thought the whole point about Tuor was that he is the one and only Tuor.
Dior? Why?still don't understand.Everything JRRT wrote hints towards Earendil's crossing of the line is the reason.
As for your explanation... i won't say it hasnt't any merit to it, but i still won't understand why. Theres no immortal x-chromosome, also elvishness is not a genetic condition or mutation caused by contact/contamination.It is frankly i don't see the logic, it doesn not convince me.Of course it COULD be, i won't say it can't be/is impossible.But i don't see it as necessarily so and nothing in the text hints towards it in my eyes.
My whole point is: it is not your explanation i dislike.I actually dislike Tolkien's explanation, i just fear as it is the author's choice i'll have to roll with it.
His entire newly released writings on elven and numenorean lifespans are confusing to me.It is however that he gave lots of thought to it... if a half-elf becomes elf or mortal his entire perception of time and lifecircle changes. Elrond became elf shortly after his birth.Arwen when she married Aragorn.I do not have to understand or like it but it seems to be the in-world rules at work.
As far as i can see it is never upbringing, education, nourishment or culture. JRRT does not seem to think in categories of socialisation or biology about it but in category of mythology and by the end religion or faith.It is because of the grace of Eru that Elronds children are bound to their fathers choice (and maybe Elrosses, it is unclear if he changed his mind or not, however i think even a half-elvish Vardamir who made the choice of mortality wouldn't seriously conflict with the canon).
Dior? Why?still don't understand.Everything JRRT wrote hints towards Earendil's crossing of the line is the reason.
As for your explanation... i won't say it hasnt't any merit to it, but i still won't understand why. Theres no immortal x-chromosome, also elvishness is not a genetic condition or mutation caused by contact/contamination.It is frankly i don't see the logic, it doesn not convince me.Of course it COULD be, i won't say it can't be/is impossible.But i don't see it as necessarily so and nothing in the text hints towards it in my eyes.
My whole point is: it is not your explanation i dislike.I actually dislike Tolkien's explanation, i just fear as it is the author's choice i'll have to roll with it.
His entire newly released writings on elven and numenorean lifespans are confusing to me.It is however that he gave lots of thought to it... if a half-elf becomes elf or mortal his entire perception of time and lifecircle changes. Elrond became elf shortly after his birth.Arwen when she married Aragorn.I do not have to understand or like it but it seems to be the in-world rules at work.
As far as i can see it is never upbringing, education, nourishment or culture. JRRT does not seem to think in categories of socialisation or biology about it but in category of mythology and by the end religion or faith.It is because of the grace of Eru that Elronds children are bound to their fathers choice (and maybe Elrosses, it is unclear if he changed his mind or not, however i think even a half-elvish Vardamir who made the choice of mortality wouldn't seriously conflict with the canon).
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