For want of a shoe, the horse was lost?Then the only possible hope for this project not to collapse into an incoherent mess over the premature ruins of Gondolin, is this suggestion/plea: to write plot outlines in which all of Beleriand has growing plant life and is inhabitable. And put native Elves in Hithlum. With no time taken to explain them, because none is needed (except in an aside note to the Hosts). And then insist the Mithrim (and the plants they eat) stay there, and explain in detail (perhaps in a note to the plot outline, since there would not be time or space in a podcast chat box) why removing them will destroy the entire Gondolin plotline, and consequently, Earendil's plot too. And without Tuor and Earendil the whole project would be ... futile. Pointless.
I suggested Gamil Brôg. ('Old Bear')The elderly dwarf who is the master of Telchar will not be named Gamil Zirak. Gamil means 'old', so we will need a different name with the Gamil prefix. Gamil Zirak is one of the few named dwarves Tolkien provided in the published Silmarillion, so we're going to be making up a lot. We're using Telchar here, but saving Gamil Zirak for later (he will be the maker of the Nauglamir, actually). This was a decision of the Hosts.
Done what?We have done that on multiple occasions.
How? Every time Haakon asked if they could exist, the Execs shot him down. They have declared they will not allow any Sindar to exist in the North. How will you convince them to change their minds -- will they listen to you more than Haakon?Does this mean that we cannot have Sindarin elves in Mithrim in later seasons? No.
Corey Olsen wants there not to be Sindar in Mithrim YET. That does not mean there won't be some there soon. He wanted to make sure the Sindar storyline wasn't too complicated with too many locations as we were introducing them. There is a reason Haakon kept bringing it up - it's probably not *that* necessary to oversimplify the story, and wanting them to be far from Angband does not have to equal no elves in the north.How? Every time Haakon asked if they could exist, the Execs shot him down. They have declared they will not allow any Sindar to exist in the North. How will you convince them to change their minds -- will they listen to you more than Haakon?
How will we get Sindar to move there without creating the plot holes I pointed out? How will we fit an entirely new migration story into Season 4, which already will have to cut canon stories out?
How will the story explain why the Sindar have been unwilling to live in Hithlum for thousands of years? If the answer is that Hithlum is uninhabitable due to the Sleep of Yavanna, how will we explain how Green Elves and Dwarves survived?
Does anyone have a concrete plan to address each of these questions? Or only a formless faith that somehow it can be fixed in some later season, and we don't need to worry about it at all right now?
I don't think it's fair to accuse me of being hysterical just because I have said that these problems need to be solved, not put off. I am quite calm, just sad.
Mithrim is definitely not uninhabitable. I don't think anyone was actually suggesting it was, there was just some disagreement over how to reconcile the Sleep with habitability.Meaning you think some Falathrim can migrate inland and become the Mithrim in Season 4, not that Tuor would be raised on the coast?
And you mean Mithrim is not uninhabitable?