Emeldir (and Narsil) will remain in the Forest of Brethil. Naturally, Morwen and Rian (and others) need to wind up in Dor-lomin...but we haven't told that story yet, so that will be a development for Season 7.
That one on Brethil. Would work for both, even if he adresses just some of them, he just has to declare it on front of some amount of witnesses beyong his mere mother. He just saw Finrod doing something similar before leaving Norgothrond so "bringing his official matters in order" before leaving for Angband would seems fitting. This would give him and us closure with his people. (Emeldir might be pressing him not go by reminding him of his duties, as such he decides to "lay those down" - or not, as I do know to little about the character of our Emeldir and her own sacrifices for the sake of her people and what she would expect from or want for her son. So it might be his own impulse or a response to her pressing him, either way would work.)Which remnant? There's two; one party with Emeldir, and the other with Morwen and Rian.
(Upfront remarks: Luthien is an elf who can make it over a river on a rope and we know she can can make things grow long by her magic. So not a sure if she depends on bridges at all. - Another question - how good can elves swim? They can do it, we know about Amroth trying to swim the sea and drowning in "Nimrodel". How well can Luthien swim - probably quite well given her long age. So I do think we could play with the crossing site if pressed hard by the story.)The short answer to your question is Nivrim, the forest of oaks on the western border of Doriath (see the green on the map below). Celegorm and Curufin are hunting in Talath Dirnen when they encounter Lúthien under 'the western eaves of Doriath.'
There are three places where Lúthien can easily cross the River Sirion: the ford of Brithiach north of Brethil, the bridge over the Sirion within the Girdle in Doriath, or by using a boat kept in Doriath in the region of Aelin-Uial to the south (see the blue marks on the map below). We know that Beren crossed at Aelin-Uial and went to Nargothrond from there. We are not told where Lúthien crossed, but based on where she is found, the bridge seems likely. With her magic shadow cloak, sneaking across the bridge may not be that difficult.
So, I suspect that she is south of Brethil (due east of Amon Rûdh) when they encounter her. Alternatively, she could have used the boats as well, and then she is likely in southern Nivrim during the encounter with Celegorm and Curufin. The Fëanoreans, of course, cannot enter Nivrim at all, and this area extends from the Fens of Sirion up to the junction of the Teiglin and Sirion.
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As I said before I personally am against Luthien meeting Emeldir at that moment in the story. (I could be conviced of Luthien being left in Emeldir's care when Beren leaves for Angband alone - with both females opposing that decission and trying to talk him out of it and him leaving in response in secret after having abdicating his duties to his people in front some of them during the previous confrontation - as having Beren get closure with his family and people and having Dior cut from the succession line as head of the House of Beor would be worth it for me). But I cannot deny it is principally geographically possible if wanted. @Rob Harding try to sell it to us.Yes, I am not suggesting that Lúthien cannot swim nor devise another way across the river. I am just pointing out that there are three established crossings, and as she is travelling alone, these are the most likely places to cross. She does have to avoid any border guard, but her stealth abilities are quite high, as only Huan can find her in the next scene. The bridge just south of the Esgalduin junction with Sirion is the most likely place.
Also, in the original story, she encounters Celegorm and Curufin immediately upon leaving Doriath. So, she is 'under the western eaves of Doriath' when they find her. Nivrim; she is definitely not in Brethil. Now, if we had a reason to want her to reach Brethil first, and then somehow encounter Celegorm and Curufin, we could suggest an addition to the story. But delaying her reaching Nargothrond is not wise - she will be taken to Nargothrond and escape Nargothrond in this episode, and it may seem as though she was imprisoned for all of 5 minutes if we introduce a Brethil storyline before that time.
I’d just like decent conversations between women that don’t rely or revolve around men. I don’t mind if people do it or not honestly I just think it’s be a missed opportunity. I’m also against Luthien trying to stop Beren, she could easily come across as ‘love interest trying to prevent man’s passion quest’ which is an exhausting trope. I just think them being strong supporters of each other and giving one another agency to follow their own paths even if they don’t agree but being there to help should things go wrong is preferable. But again, I’m not investing in trying to sell this to anyone. Sooner include these elements in my own versions. Just putting them out as suggestions
Naturally, we have been cognizant of creating episodes of Silm Film that pass the Bechdel test:I’d just like decent conversations between women that don’t rely or revolve around men.
Nice picture. But they could have started out talking about Celebrian leaving ME and if that was a valid option and that would have counted.. (The image below from a cut scene shows Galadriel talking with Arwen, so the potential was there...though this conversation likely would have been about Aragorn).
Oh it wasn’t a slight. I’m well up to speed on choices made and enjoy them. Was just explaining why I personally didn’t invoke the Test. Odala reiterated the issue in her last post. But I’m not suggesting we’re doing the bear minimum, obviously not.Yes, it's been something we've been looking out for for some time now, and we're not simply relying on the Bechdel test, either. Here's a thread devoted to concerns about the portrayal of female characters on our show:
Numerically, there are more named male characters than female characters in the Silmarillion. When we get to the Hobbit, there's only Bilbo's late mother, the fabulous Belladonna Took, getting a name drop, and no actual named female characters at all. So, naturally, we will be inventing our...forums.signumuniversity.org
A heads up that the podcast session will be delayed until May 19th.Update: Session 6-11 will be held on Thursday May 19th at 10 PM Eastern Time (we are delaying due to scheduling conflicts with Corey Olsen's travels).
We will be wrapping up the Beren and Lúthien storylines and finalizing the Season Outline.
We have work to do yet for Episode 13.
How does the season finale spell out the theme of "release from bondage"?
We will also have to decide how to handle Dior and how to anticipate Season 7.