Session 6-22: Casting

Most Noldor have Sindarin names though, even the Feanorians.But that is a minor point and there seemingly are exceptions too.
 
In Silm Film, we have been using the Sindarin names for the Noldor all along, including in Valinor. The idea of changing the names of the entire cast during the Ban was a bit too daunting to stomach. Names of minor characters among the Noldor may be in Quenya, though. And since he's a Fëanorian, why not?

There is no major role proposed for the character of Farastar at this point, but he is 'available' to be used moving forward. He may be a useful voice in the debates in Nargothrond about whether or not to join the Union of Maedhros, for instance. He could be a soldier killed by Glaurung in the sack of Nargothrond. That sort of thing.
 
MithLuin said:
There is no major role proposed for the character of Farastar at this point, but he is 'available' to be used moving forward. He may be a useful voice in the debates in Nargothrond about whether or not to join the Union of Maedhros, for instance. He could be a soldier killed by Glaurung in the sack of Nargothrond. That sort of thing.
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Mostly I just couldn't find where we had noted down that he stays in Nargothrond.
 
Oh - Celegorm and Curufin are thrown out by everyone, so it's showing that they lost not only the support of 'the people of Nargothrond', but also of their own people. The focus is on Celebrimbor remaining in Nargothrond, of course. But Celegorm and Curufin arrived in West Beleriand with a sizable force...and those people are conspicuously absent when the brothers confront Beren and Lúthien after the fall of Tol-in-Gaurhoth. Only Huan is still with them in that scene. So, Farastar is therefore still in Nargothrond, unless/until the remaining Fëanorians leave.
 
MithLuin said:
Oh - Celegorm and Curufin are thrown out by everyone, so it's showing that they lost not only the support of 'the people of Nargothrond', but also of their own people. The focus is on Celebrimbor remaining in Nargothrond, of course. But Celegorm and Curufin arrived in West Beleriand with a sizable force...and those people are conspicuously absent when the brothers confront Beren and Lúthien after the fall of Tol-in-Gaurhoth. Only Huan is still with them in that scene. So, Farastar is therefore still in Nargothrond, unless/until the remaining Fëanorians leave.
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On the other hand while Celegorm and Curufin themselves are thrown out, their tactics remain in place through Nargothrond prioritizing guerilla warfare (and in hindsight might have been a better option than Túrin's military buildup).
 
Ange1e4e5 said:
On the other hand while Celegorm and Curufin themselves are thrown out, their tactics remain in place through Nargothrond prioritizing guerilla warfare (and in hindsight might have been a better option than Túrin's military buildup).
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Turin or his followers could even adress justbthat in order to delegitimize the new tactics and present their grear armament as a return to the old and real ways...
 
Haerangil said:
Turin or his followers could even adress justbthat in order to delegitimize the new tactics and present their grear armament as a return to the old and real ways...
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Well a mixture of the two ways had worked in the past right? Nargothrond had survived as a quasi-hidden kingdom for hundreds of years but still had a good standing army, it's only when Túrin's aggressive buildup takes place that Morgoth gets a bead on it and gets it sacked.
 
Ange1e4e5 said:
Well a mixture of the two ways had worked in the past right? Nargothrond had survived as a quasi-hidden kingdom for hundreds of years but still had a good standing army, it's only when Túrin's aggressive buildup takes place that Morgoth gets a bead on it and gets it sacked.
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The geopolitical situation has changed now, they were on his list to be dealt with anyway - sooner or later...
 
Do they have names on the script? I don't think so...
As extras or side haracters they most likely also won't be cast, except if we do an inofficial side haracter and extra casting thread...

If we needed names... what about Nogon and Atheg? Going with the tradition of Naugladur, Fangluin, Bodruith we already did catch up with Norn and Laurin...
 
Haerangil said:
Do they have names on the script? I don't think so...
As extras or side haracters they most likely also won't be cast, except if we do an inofficial side haracter and extra casting thread...
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They're in the list of "characters we should definitely cast".
 
Weird.We havent't done that before for characters with so little dialogue...

What do you think of Nogon and Atheg?

Other names coming to my mind: Derndir, Dîr, Bâb, Nauin, Beglin, Fanglach, Cidinn, Nimp, Pîn, Migin, Inig, Fangmalad, Ûrfang, Fangrhuin, Tang, Buir, Byr, Mîr, Tân, Ûr, Ýr, Clog, Pinig, Sarneg, Gonnthi,...
 
They are meant to be recurring characters, which is why they are on the list to be cast. I can add the name suggestions. Whoever writes the script where they first appear will likely choose the names, unless there's interest in advance.
 
Suggestion for Eilinel: perhaps someone who has similar features to Carey Mulligan (Thurwingwethil) where Carey may be mistaken for our Eilinel at a distance but once it's up close there's clearly a difference... and it's too late as Gorlim is seized.
 
Notes after the podcast

Season 6 Casting
Beren - mid-20s to mid-30s. Looks roughly a match in age to Lúthien (33 year old Jessica Brown Findlay). Must have a beard. 'Hollywood homely' where he's a bit scruffy but cleans up well. Strong wiry build - not a bodybuilder, not a wimp. Light brown hair. Not Harry Styles

Baragund - 30s to 40s, older than Beren, younger than 55 year old Barahir (cousins). should have dark hair and complexion as Morwen's father

Belegund - similar age as Baragund. needn't look just like his brother. Can have lighter coloration

Gorlim - 20s, younger than Beren, embodies tragic young love. Not related to Barahir/Beren/Baragund/Belegund, House of Bëor

Eilinel - brief role, need not look like Thuringwethil (who can shape shift into her). Young (late teens, early 20s). House of Bëor

Gorgol the Butcher - big strong burly orc, not as massive as the 7 ft Boldog

Voice of Huan - Should sound like the dog is speaking, not a voiceover or other entity speaking through the dog. Prefer a bit growly, not a melodious voice. Older, mentor figure. Not Liam Neeson's Aslan or James Earl Jones' Darth Vader

Zirak - Dwarf of Nogrod, so light complexion, red hair. Something of the tragedy of his character should be present. He has ambition, he's an artist - Fëanor-adjacent personality

Two Dwarves of Belegost - dark hair/complexion because Belegost. 'Everyman' characters

Edrahil - younger elf, 20's

Enedrion - younger elf, 20's

Inglor - can be 40 years old, to show that he is Finrod's old friend. Could be blond to indicate family relationship

Vanwa (Deadwë) - look, he's a ghost. If people want to cast him as a joke, go for it, but we certainly don't have to!
 
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Well, I guess that throws my idea of Gorgol out the window; I'd envisioned him as being different from Boldog in a similar manner as the T-1000 was from the T-800.
 
MithLuin said:
What difference do you mean?
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Physical contrast; the T-800 was a lot about brute force, the T-1000 about quickness but could still pack a punch. They're in contrasting roles; Boldog leads armies, Gorgol would be leading a smaller war party.
 
So, T-1000 was not as massive as Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Gorgol should not be as massive as Conan Stevens. How is that limiting?
 
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