Melkor?
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Carlia
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I think that Melkor's theme should be something powerful and intense, but at the same time something elegant and why not seductive... Let's not forget this is the original Dark Lord in Tolkien's universe. And it must evoque a certain darkness to it. Is "All things Melkor" the phrase I am looking for?
So the first thing that came to my all to crazy mind was this...
I know it could not possibly be that exactly, but my suggestion would be to mix the classical and some very powerful rock.
So the first thing that came to my all to crazy mind was this...
I know it could not possibly be that exactly, but my suggestion would be to mix the classical and some very powerful rock.
Nicholas Palazzo
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I've been thinking about Apocalyptica for a while in regards to this project. I'm in.
I'm sorry MithLuin, but I don't think Musescore has a vuvuzela as one of its instrumentsTo be completely honest, I will be performing in a joke version of the Ainulindalë in a few weeks. We're going to have tin flutes, a mandolin and drum....and Melkor will interrupt with kazoo.
So, if you can work in a vuvuzela, I think you will have nailed Melkor's personality
I mean...they sound like angry bees....what is better at interrupting than that?
My apologies for having no useful contributions here. All I know about making music sound evil is to put it in a minor key. But I'd want something bombastic for Melkor.....
. I shall have to invest in some software that does.
I like the Devil's Trill in the style of playing for Mairon, but I really can't see him doin' some boot scootin' while he is carrying out Aule's work.
That conductor is brilliant. Who did he get lesson's off? Bugs Bunny?
Yes Haakon, these suggestions will get to the execs. My summary will include these discussions and links.
One thing I do know about Melkor's theme is that it needs the capacity to change form from one season to another. In season one it has to represent pride and the conviction of rightness (on Melkor's part). In season two I feel it needs to be more seductive as he spreads his lies among the Noldor. Season three would see it descend into the blare of trumpets and French horns possibly using music from the third theme in the Ainulindale. As you know I like to go to Howard Shore for this kind of thing. The Ring Theme had many different forms some more like to each other than others. The two tracks here show the same theme with only a slight variation in melody but they are in fact the same theme. I had been watching the movies for years before this was brought to my attention.
The first video "One Ring to Rule Them All" is a compilation of many of the ring themes as played in The Lord of the Rings movies. It starts with the Seduction of the ring theme sung by boy sopranos. In the Return of the King this is blared out by brass when Smeagol murders Deagol (cinematic only) losing its innocence entirely. The ring theme proper starts at 1:55
The second video "Mordor/Sauron's Theme" is the same theme (admittedly a variation) but played so differently it is almost unrecognisable. At 0:15 the theme starts proper
My son listens to lots of gaming music so I trolled his collection and found this from "The Last Story". The track "Is this the path of the Just?" has a great trumpet solo at 1:05 which is not strident and not too soft and alluring. It just says, "here I am". This may be what we need Melkor to sound like in Season 1.
I have placed here a link so you can hear the comparison between the seduction of the ring theme when sung by the boy sopranos and when it is blared out by brass. Boy Soprano at 2:54 and brass at 4:14.
The first video "One Ring to Rule Them All" is a compilation of many of the ring themes as played in The Lord of the Rings movies. It starts with the Seduction of the ring theme sung by boy sopranos. In the Return of the King this is blared out by brass when Smeagol murders Deagol (cinematic only) losing its innocence entirely. The ring theme proper starts at 1:55
The second video "Mordor/Sauron's Theme" is the same theme (admittedly a variation) but played so differently it is almost unrecognisable. At 0:15 the theme starts proper
My son listens to lots of gaming music so I trolled his collection and found this from "The Last Story". The track "Is this the path of the Just?" has a great trumpet solo at 1:05 which is not strident and not too soft and alluring. It just says, "here I am". This may be what we need Melkor to sound like in Season 1.
I have placed here a link so you can hear the comparison between the seduction of the ring theme when sung by the boy sopranos and when it is blared out by brass. Boy Soprano at 2:54 and brass at 4:14.
Haha, no worries - no one actually wants to hear a vuvuzela, I don't think! I think there is likely more vuvuzela-cancelling software than vuvuzela-producing software in existenceI'm sorry MithLuin, but I don't think Musescore has a vuvuzela as one of its instruments
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He's kinda amazing to watch, isn't he?That conductor is brilliant. Who did he get lesson's off? Bugs Bunny?
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Carlia
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I found Beethoven and a vuvuzela, in case you are interestedTo be completely honest, I will be performing in a joke version of the Ainulindalë in a few weeks. We're going to have tin flutes, a mandolin and drum....and Melkor will interrupt with kazoo.
So, if you can work in a vuvuzela, I think you will have nailed Melkor's personality
I mean...they sound like angry bees....what is better at interrupting than that?
My apologies for having no useful contributions here. All I know about making music sound evil is to put it in a minor key. But I'd want something bombastic for Melkor.....