Posting these unedited notes as-is for now, so y'all can use them at your convenience. I'll tidy up later when I have some free time.
Silmfilm 3.07
Meeting with Dwarves:
Relationship with elves shaky, easier to convey if they’ve just met them..
*Daeron could fill in the gaps with his storytelling and singing of songs
*Green elves as FOIL for the Noldor
Sindar are in trouble and in need of allies
· meet Dwarves (uncertain)
· Cirdan (eh…)
· Green elves arrive with Ents (yay, friends!), but get slaughtered
Death of Denethor big tragedy at the end of the timeline
Sindar story needs to have a culmination (Denethor’s death)
Fighting the long defeat….
Stages?
**Arrival of Noldor should look like eucatastrophe to the Sindar
List of major events in Sindar storyline:
Meet dwarves
Meet orcs
Build Menegroth
Re establish characters and what’s going on
Eol’s prominence and relationship with dwarves (more active in the earlier battles, fighting alongside dwarves, a potential ally…)
Meeting the dwarves…
Mim and his grievance
Preliminary skirmishes….
Things start to get bad for the Sindar
Boldog and the orcs (Sindar lose, green elves come in, get slaughtered)
Q: Who gets credit for the victory in the south? Sauron? Boldog?
- we don’t need Boldog to be another Gothmog
- he’s under Sauron’s orders
- Boldog is the representative of the orcs
*Ents suffer loss
Spiders…..
- Sauron enlists the spiders when the orcs are unsuccessful with the girdle?
- Spiders and werewolves attacking the havens?
- Werewolves attack havens and spiders attack Doriath (Melian drives spiders away with the girdle)
- Menegroth besieged by spiders, forest corrupted, Melian sings the girdle into being (important song), ring spreads out and spiders flee
- Werewolves besiege Havens, Falas taken over, Cirdan escapes via ships
Q: When is the girdle established? Where in the Noldor timeline does it happen?
- parallel with rising of the moon and arrival of Fingolfin ?
- around the time of the Noldor victories, after death of Feanor…
*Sauron needs to be in Angband around the time of the parley (He’s had victory…etc)
Q: Who tells the Sindar about the Noldor?
- Cirdan (comes across wreck of ships/sees the light from the burning?)
- Moment of grief/sadnesss (regognizes them as Olwe’s ships)
Q: Should the sindar be aware of Melkor?
- Melian is aware and tells them
Next time:
Revised episode outline to include the decisions from today
Next discussion will be focused on the mood, reintroducing characters, etc…
- need some events
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